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B/C overly religous people think they know it all, they know what's best for you, and think your wrong for living the way you do. they are holier-than-thou type and very judgemental. and they are dead serious about it.
sports fans like to compete and rivalries are fun. throughing around your opinion and arguing about players is fun. in the end though, they don't judge you, lecture you, or take it seriously enough to cause trouble in a relationship over.
It's just something Northerners (mostly) like to say/complain about. They want Jax to be like where they came from, and being that many new residents are from the NE, they are most likely accustomed to the far left crowd, and some may seem church/religion discussions as way off base. They think church and church discussions ("where do you go to church?") are discussions rednecks and bible thumpers use as a way to pry, whether thry truly want to know about you or not. Most likely, it is a conversation starter, a way to get to know someone, etc... but often times, the newer residents see it as being nosy. That's my opinion (as well as many others I'm sure, but most probably wouldnt admit it).
B/C overly religous people think they know it all, they know what's best for you, and think your wrong for living the way you do. they are holier-than-thou type and very judgemental. and they are dead serious about it.
Aren't you being judgmental by grouping all overly religious people together? You think they are wrong for living they way they do. And your dead serious about it.
The reason people give Christians a bad name is because the only one's they know are the one's on tv. If someone was to say all blacks were lazy or that all white people were racist people would be up in arms. But it's still okay to call all Christians judgemental.
I am a Christian. I love God and Jesus. I try not to judge people and to live by Jesus greatest commandment, love.
As for us trying to "preaching at people". I always ask people to view this. I don't hate anyone enough to try to not save them
It's just something Northerners (mostly) like to say/complain about. They want Jax to be like where they came from, and being that many new residents are from the NE, they are most likely accustomed to the far left crowd, and some may seem church/religion discussions as way off base. They think church and church discussions ("where do you go to church?") are discussions rednecks and bible thumpers use as a way to pry, whether they truly want to know about you or not. Most likely, it is a conversation starter, a way to get to know someone, etc... but often times, the newer residents see it as being nosy. That's my opinion (as well as many others I'm sure, but most probably wouldn't admit it).
Actually...as a former born and raised resident of the North, we really do see it as an obtrusive conversation starter. When I first moved here 6 years ago, more often than not one of the very first things I would be asked was " So, what church do you belong to"? or "You should come to my church". This is just not a normal conversation starter in my opinion. I don't know you and all you care about is if I am religious or not? To this day, I still find that question very uncomfortable. The constant chatter about church at work etc does seem to be a bit overdone and annoying in my opinion. Up North you just don't get that. I grew up Roman Catholic, attending church every Sunday till I was 18 and decided it wasn't for me. But after that, I was never ONCE asked if I attend church or where I go to church...till I moved South.
And now my answer is "I do not go to church, its my personal choice."
End of story.
I think it's a matter of consequences too. In a (very) broad example, consider the consequences of churchy-ness vs. sports fanaticism: some religious groups want to restrict certain people from getting married and prevent evolution from being taught in schools..... I can't think of a consequence of sports fanaticism of the same magnitude.
That's my personal opinion. I do not belong to any organized religion, and when I talk to some religious people (notice I am being very general), their disrespect for me and my beliefs is tangible. On the flip side, when I (a Seminole) argue with idiots (i.e. Gators- j/k), it's clear that any insults thrown or judgments made do not extend/apply past football.
I think it's a matter of consequences too. In a (very) broad example, consider the consequences of churchy-ness vs. sports fanaticism: some religious groups want to restrict certain people from getting married and prevent evolution from being taught in schools..... I can't think of a consequence of sports fanaticism of the same magnitude.
That's my personal opinion. I do not belong to any organized religion, and when I talk to some religious people (notice I am being very general), their disrespect for me and my beliefs is tangible. On the flip side, when I (a Seminole) argue with idiots (i.e. Gators- j/k), it's clear that any insults thrown or judgments made do not extend/apply past football.
Actually...as a former born and raised resident of the North, we really do see it as an obtrusive conversation starter. When I first moved here 6 years ago, more often than not one of the very first things I would be asked was " So, what church do you belong to"? or "You should come to my church". This is just not a normal conversation starter in my opinion. I don't know you and all you care about is if I am religious or not? No, why would that be all they care about? How about a conversation starter? A way to get to know you. To this day, I still find that question very uncomfortable. The constant chatter about church at work etc does seem to be a bit overdone and annoying in my opinion. Talking about something uplifting is annoying? Up North you just don't get that. You get ignored up there. People walk with thier heads down.Dont make eye contact, you might have to say Hi! I grew up Roman Catholic, attending church every Sunday till I was 18 and decided it wasn't for me. But after that, I was never ONCE asked if I attend church or where I go to church...till I moved South. Again, people are more polite and like to chat it up down here in the South. Up north, it's more about "me" and "not wasting your time."
And now my answer is "I do not go to church, its my personal choice."
End of story.
Of course it's your choice. But once you say that, I'd be willing to bet nobody gives you a hard time about it.
I think most of it is needless complaining. I'm not Christian and I was born 'n raised in Jax. I can't recall ever having someone ask me to go to their church. The only time I've ever gotten into an uncomfortable "well why don't you believe in JESUS?" kind of situation was because I decided to start sh*t knowing full well how extremely religious the other person was.
While I don't doubt that there are many aggressive proselytizers out there, I would wager that some of the blame lies with "open minded" people who aren't aware of how snobish, demeaning and un-open minded they act around religious people.
When I lived in the North I was pretty surprised at the overt cultural disdain for fundamentalist Christianity, although it was never any skin off my back. But I guess that growing up in the South we just learned to have a little more respect for people's religious beliefs, even if we didn't have any of our own. Or at least we learned to keep our mouths shut at dinner parties.
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