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The Bible says it chews its cud. It doesn't. The Bible is wrong. Someone observed it chewing and wrote it down. It does chew. It doesn't chew its cud. The Bible is the word of God. Ergo, the word of God is wrong. Or Science is wrong. They both can't be right. They both can't be wrong.
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Originally Posted by 70Ford
The Bible says it chews its cud. It doesn't. The Bible is wrong. Someone observed it chewing and wrote it down. It does chew. It doesn't chew its cud. The Bible is the word of God. Ergo, the word of God is wrong. Or Science is wrong. They both can't be right. They both can't be wrong.
There is something really pathetically sad about starting a thread about the digestive habits of an animal very few have heard of in a religion and philosophy forum. What other fanciful delusions and fairy tales do these people also worry about?
There is something really pathetically sad about starting a thread about the digestive habits of an animal very few have heard of in a religion and philosophy forum. What other fanciful delusions and fairy tales do these people also worry about?
I think the point was to show Fundamentalists that if God wrote the Bible , he had a terrible grasp on the animals he created.
The rational excuse for those ancient biologists is that they mistook the animal's chewing habits as cud-chewing, and they never bothered to check ha.
I think the point was to show Fundamentalists that if God wrote the Bible , he had a terrible grasp on the animals he created.
The rational excuse for those ancient biologists is that they mistook the animal's chewing habits as cud-chewing, and they never bothered to check ha.
Where is an interesting article discussing this...
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In modern English, animals that ‘chew the cud’ are called ruminants. They hardly chew their food when first eaten, but swallow it into a special stomach where the food is partially digested. Then it is regurgitated, chewed again, and swallowed into a different stomach. Animals which do this include cows, sheep and goats, and they all have four stomachs.1 Coneys and rabbits are not ruminants in this modern sense.
However, the Hebrew phrase for ‘chew the cud’ simply means ‘raising up what has been swallowed’. Coneys and rabbits go through such similar motions to ruminants that Linnaeus, the father of modern classification (and a creationist), at first classified them as ruminants. Also, rabbits and hares practise refection, which is essentially the same principle as rumination, and does indeed ‘raise up what has been swallowed’. The food goes right through the rabbit and is passed out as a special type of dropping. These are re-eaten, and can now nourish the rabbit as they have already been partly digested.
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I think the point was to show Fundamentalists that if God wrote the Bible , he had a terrible grasp on the animals he created.
The rational excuse for those ancient biologists is that they mistook the animal's chewing habits as cud-chewing, and they never bothered to check ha.
Yep. At the end of the day, no, it doesn't matter that the Bible is wrong. Because, hey, if one thing is wrong, then the rest of it has the same amount of credibility, eh? Or is just that part of it wrong, and the rest of it is actually the words of an omniscient being and is all correct? For a good part of my life, I was taught that the Bible was the word of God, given to men to write down. Evidently, either they or God got it wrong.
Yep. At the end of the day, no, it doesn't matter that the Bible is wrong. Because, hey, if one thing is wrong, then the rest of it has the same amount of credibility, eh? Or is just that part of it wrong, and the rest of it is actually the words of an omniscient being and is all correct? For a good part of my life, I was taught that the Bible was the word of God, given to men to write down. Evidently, either they or God got it wrong.
I certainly sympathize with how it feels to be taught that the entire Bible is the Word of God - inerrant, etc. Definitely a Fundamentalist idea nowadays.
As for the credibility of the whole, many human hands went into the construction of what later became the library of the various Biblical Canons out there - so it's to be expected that many different voices are at work. I guess it all depends on what you're looking for in it. Even if you get past the idea that it's not written by God, it's still a fascinating collection of writings from the ancient Near East. It's refreshing to look at it in that light, rather than in the light of an untenable dogma of complete and utter Divine Authorship.
God clearly says you will be burned in hell for eating the wrong animal. But you can drink the blood and eat the body of God's only son every Sunday... if fact you will probably go to hell if you don't.
This is so confusing... I'd go have a beer and stop worrying about it, but my wife says God says I'll go to hell if I do that too so I'm kinda stuck...
Besides, what am I gonna do with all the Hyrax meat in my freezer if the premise of this thread turns out to be true?
What if I genetically alter questionable animals to meet the requirements? No, then I'd be "playing god" which is a go-to-hellable offense too, I'm sure.
What about "mystery meat"? Aw hell, every kid who's attended a public school is gonna go to hell! This is a disaster!
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No, then I'd be "playing god" which is a go-to-hellable offense too, I'm sure. 
