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HAHAHA oh that is hilarious, i needed a good laugh, thanks Carico. U want to talk about Inventing a history while defending religion ?? What do u mean by no one in history can verify, we have found fossil records, that is proof. The ice ages are verified by taking core samples from the earth which show variations that led to a hypothesis of multiple ice ages, its a thory and they are working on finding further proof, which is way more than the religious people r doing.
we have way more proof for our "invented" history then u have for any of your religious version of history... a garden of eden, all mankind springing from 2 people, the entire earth being flooded while managing to get every single species from the smallest bug to the largest mammal onto a single boat that was hand made.. or r we picking and choosing r parts of the bible as science keeps proving it to be more and more rediculous.
I mean just that. No ancient people in history have ever passed along accounts of our alleged "vine-swinging ancestors." One would think that the first fully formed humans would have marvelous stories about their non-speaking parents and ancestors. But of course, no one does because the story of evolution is as imaginary, convoluted, and far-fetched as "Lord of the Rings."
But at least Tolken knew his story was fiction. Evolutionists on the other hand, actually believe their characters were real. That's what makes evolutionists delusional.
And reading what's on a fossil is as subjective as looking at the shapes that leaves on a tree form.
So again, let's hear the real history of the Jews. I bet it's as far-fetched and entertaining as the claim that apes once turned into people.
But herein lies the problem. The Creationist mythical story of 6 literal days or 144 hours and then poof, everything magically appears is not only unscientific, but it's also not biblical. One person on this forum told me there were no growth rings in the old growth forest trees when God made the old growth forests. If that were true it would be recorded in the fossil record somewhere. I mean, just one 10 foot diameter Redwood tree fossil would do the trick !!! Why is it that the 6 creative periods are viewed as 6 literal 24 hour days and yet the God's 7th day of rest is still ongoing at this time and in existance today ???
Can you understand why there are critics.
You attacked me on another thread for not worshipping the Bible as the literal truth. Now you're attacking fundamentalism. Perculiar.
Carico - I would implore you to honestly study the evidence for evolution. I don't begin to believe that it is all there is - meaning there is definitely a spiritual realm interplaying with it based on my own visceral experience - but the process of evolution is quite evident today.
what "evidence" are you pointing to? If anything, I should be the one lecturing you on ignoring evidence. There is an embarrassing lack of evidence for evolution. The best you've got is that all the different species kind of look like each other. I call that evidence for design.
All the evidence points to evolution by natural selection. The evidence that proves evolution is true is the fossil record, the geologic timescale and DNA. Natural selection can also be observed in nature by any layperson. There are several factors that affect how a species is able to survive(ie competition, predators, population size, food etc.) When the population of a given species is smaller then they are able to survive in that environment without any trouble of running out of food etc. As the population of that species grows, it becomes harder for them to survive. After the population reaches its maximum potential that is able to live in an environment with sustainable resources, then the population begins to die off and the ones that are best fit to survive in that environment are able to have their genes continue on because they are better able to reproduce and the species that are unable to reproduce die off so the characteristics of the ones that are able to survive are passed down to successive generations, which after a given amount of time(usually a long period of time) and having the population grow and die off then grow and die off etc. the species starts to change. Some species called r selected species, have a population that grows and die off much faster, but they also reproduce more offspring and live for shorter periods of time. R selected species would include species such as rodents and fish. The other kind of species are called k selected species. K selected species take longer for their population to grow and die off, although they live for longer periods and produce fewer offspring. K selected species would be like humans and wolves. Survival of the fittest is another process that can also be observed. Survival of fittest is where the genes that are most beneficial to the species are passed on while the genes are bad are discarded. An example of this would be if there are two stags fighting so that one is able to have the mate to reproduce. One stag has small antlers and the other has large antlers which are better for fighting so the gene for larger antlers is passed on because the stags with larger antlers are able to reproduce. Mutations is another process that there is evidence for. Mutations can be either bad, good or nuetral. Good mutations are passed on while the bad ones are discarded. Mutations happen when there is a change in the DNA sequence. Someone's DNA is made up of four different nucleic acids-thymine, adenine, cytosine and guanine. Gaunine pairs with cytosine and thymine pairs with adenine. When a mutation occurs, it might be because a thymine is missing an adenine or a cytosine is paired with a thymine. An example of a mutation would be the gene for sickle cell anemia in Africa. Malaria is very prevalent in many parts of Africa and over forty percent of Africans in those parts have the gene. While the sickle cell gene makes someone more supceptible to the disease of sickle cell anemia, it also help to protect someone from malaria. The fossil record also supports evolution. Every species has distinct characteristics. For example apes are bipedal(they walk on two feet) whereas monkeys are quadripedal(they walk on all fours). Other features would be things like the shape of the skull and brain size. For example, monkeys have a smaller brain size than apes. Apes would include species like humans and chimpanzees while monkeys would include species like baboons and macqaques. An example of the fossils of a species would be the species of Lucy(the ancestor that links monkeys and apes). Lucy has both monkey and ape characteristics. She has a bigger brain size(apes have bigger brains than monkeys) than a monkey, yet she expressed the characteristics of a quadripedal. Also, a common misunderstanding by creationists is that evolution states that humans came from monkleys, when it actually says we came from a common ancestor. Some other species that are transitional forms are Australopithecus africanus, Homo erectus and homo habilis. Apes are of the homo taxon while monkeys are of the australopithecines. Another part is the geologic timescale. Potassium argon accurately dates the age of things and it is the chemical that has been used to date how old the earth is.
I mean just that. No ancient people in history have ever passed along accounts of our alleged "vine-swinging ancestors." One would think that the first fully formed humans would have marvelous stories about their non-speaking parents and ancestors. But of course, no one does because the story of evolution is as imaginary, convoluted, and far-fetched as "Lord of the Rings."
But at least Tolken knew his story was fiction. Evolutionists on the other hand, actually believe their characters were real. That's what makes evolutionists delusional.
And reading what's on a fossil is as subjective as looking at the shapes that leaves on a tree form.
So again, let's hear the real history of the Jews. I bet it's as far-fetched and entertaining as the claim that apes once turned into people.
The complete ignorance shown by your post is scary. No where in the theory of evolution does it state that humans or any other life form suddenly appeared fully formed. You are confusing evolution with creationism. Why do people like you go on and on about evolution when you don't even bother even a rudimentary understanding of the topic?
What does the history of the jews have to do with evolution?
Please stop your insane blathering about a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. If you would like to learn about evolution, google is your friend.
The complete ignorance shown by your post is scary. No where in the theory of evolution does it state that humans or any other life form suddenly appeared fully formed. You are confusing evolution with creationism. Why do people like you go on and on about evolution when you don't even bother even a rudimentary understanding of the topic?
What does the history of the jews have to do with evolution?
Please stop your insane blathering about a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. If you would like to learn about evolution, google is your friend.
I already know what evolution says. Evolutionists claim that over hundreds of thousands of years, apes or some unknown primate (unknown because the story of evolution is fictional) gradually turned into people. Again, it's impossible for apes to turn into people whether over a gazillion years or 9 months. All you have to understand is the birds and the bees to know why.
The complete ignorance shown by your post is scary. No where in the theory of evolution does it state that humans or any other life form suddenly appeared fully formed. You are confusing evolution with creationism. Why do people like you go on and on about evolution when you don't even bother even a rudimentary understanding of the topic?
What does the history of the jews have to do with evolution?
Please stop your insane blathering about a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. If you would like to learn about evolution, google is your friend.
The nonthinkers are incapable of understanding facts like evolution because their maximum mental capacity is that of a retarded slug. Even if you explain the facts clearly to them, it is automatically wrong if it contradicts their beliefs. Since evolution contradicts their beliefs, they think that it is an evil myth. They don't want to research what evolution actually is since if they do then their beliefs will automatically dissolve. They ramble on and on with their usual nonthinking spoutings that they pretend are true, but in reality everyone knows that it is just foolish blather of a tiny baby.
I know! It's absurd isn't it? What will those quacky evolutionists come up with next?! Fish into goldfish? Birds into swallows? Rodentia into mice?
How about mice into humans since mice have DNA similar to humans.
It's not only absurd, it's an embarrassment that people who call themselves intelligent invented the story, much less duped a whole world into believing it. But that's because Satan, the father of lies, entices most people to believe anyone with a Ph.d. in science no matter how irrational he shows himself be. If anything proves that Satan exists, it's the story of evolution.
Personally I think it is an embarrassment to most Christians that there are folks like you, who claim to be Christian. You must realize that most Christians have accepted evolution as fact, and people who make statements such as yours contribute in a big way to making Christians in general laughing stocks. It sure isn't doing much for your status here either.
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?? What do u mean by no one in history can verify, we have found fossil records, that is proof. The ice ages are verified by taking core samples from the earth which show variations that led to a hypothesis of multiple ice ages, its a thory and they are working on finding further proof, which is way more than the religious people r doing. 
One would think that the first fully formed humans would have marvelous stories about their non-speaking parents and ancestors. 
