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Old 02-21-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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Hummmmm, I think that the height of my ambition is to become rational, .....eventually. Rational, all reasonable things in equal measure, no hatred, no anger, superstition is ok as long as I don't take it seriously,
No love, no joy..."rationalism", when taken to it's conclusion, means giving up allot of the things that make us human. Granted, I don't believe in love anyway, so big deal on that front, but allot of people do. Emotions are just as irrational as any of the fairies and dragons I believe in.

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as is mythology, I too, enjoy a good story, I just don't wanna pack my bags and try to go live in one.
I am of the same opinion when it comes to romance novels, and in my life I have seen just as much evidence of romantic love actually existing as you have of fairies and ghost actually existing. But, I find ghost and fairies to be allot more fun than love, so who is right here?
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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Granted, I don't believe in love anyway, so big deal on that front, but allot of people do. Emotions are just as irrational as any of the fairies and dragons I believe in.
Don't you know anyone in your life who's in love? That seems like a much bleaker outlook on life than your view of rationalism. I know many people who are genuinely in love and it's obviously a very real phenomenon. Parents love their children and most of them would give their lives to protect them. I don't see anything irrational about that at all. Anyway, it sounds like you're at least content with your life and your viewpoints so that's good. They just strike me as very unusual but to each his own.
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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Victorianpunk wrote:

Don't you know anyone in your life who's in love?
Don't you know anyone in your life who believes in ghosts?

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That seems like a much bleaker outlook on life than your view of rationalism.
I am not some emo kid saying "love stinks! I'm gonna cut myself while listening to Fall Out Boy! " I am just saying that I am 90% think romantic love exists. Does that mean I'm depressed? No! As I said, I could be completely happy living a life without love, just as I assume you could be happy living a life without the paranormal.

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I know many people who are genuinely in love and it's obviously a very real phenomenon.
I could introduce you to people who are genuinely affraid of ghosts, demons, and unseelie faires, does that make it real? It is an opinion which cannot be proven.

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Parents love their children and most of them would give their lives to protect them.
Devotion and love are two different things. Also, not all parents "love" their children...ever hear of Andrea Yates?

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I don't see anything irrational about that at all. Anyway, it sounds like you're at least content with your life and your viewpoints so that's good. They just strike me as very unusual but to each his own.
I find it odd that there are people who don't believe in anything supernatural. Also, at least I, as I have said, still want to attempt to go ahead and go on a date or two and see if I can actually be intimate with someone, but I am not holding my breathe and will approach the whole thing with skepticism. I don't know many rationalist who would actually be big enough to try casting a spell or hunting for ghosts.

And will that skepticism make the experiment with romance doomed to failure? Well, James Randi has been told that his own disbelieve makes magick not work around him, and he says that that's a "cheap cop-out with no scientific merit!" well, I would say that seeing a "relationship" fail because I was scientific and skeptical about love is also a cheap cop-out with no scientific merit! What's the difference?
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