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Old 07-24-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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WRONG. Lots of living organism do nothing for plants. Things like Riftia tube worms. No interaction on any scale with Plants. All of the viruses that infect plants do them no good. All of the deep sea vent bacteria have NO service to plants. They do not utilize oxygen produced by plants or energy produced by plants.

Tomb worms break down matters of the flesh to mix in with the soils..which services plants...Killing plants makes compost for more plants via making soil..so plants can live...

Virus and bacteria...not only kill but protect certain things...if something dies of virus or bacteria...it is then consumed via other living things...to decay that death back into its elemental parts...

Water services Life..Sun services Life...Earth service Life and death...but death is not suppose to be with certain living things...it is only because of an error made by supposed Humankind onto one of a kind living tree or plant..told not to touch...as God, I assumedly assume was waiting for the seed of its fruit to make more like it...because they ate the fruits completely, they caused a death of something that was not suppose to die....and so corruption was created by that act...in the whole chain of life...and they turned against us or fear us now...

Everything is relevant...everything has purpose...everything was formed due to cause and effect...and still is...mutating out of chaos.

it is all relevant...it is all to do with plants...it is all to do with God..and it is all to do with man and woman's sins or Evils or disobediance to God, and the Eden Principles of elemental elements God made, that have to be restored!!!!....and how we are to uphold, tend and keep, and put into order...tame...utilize for the greator good of the whole, not the self....and as it is clearly Given by God...we have to question the idea of wealth, and money, and what God said about those things..which we are not to make more important than he....if we cannot share, Give, and in the sharing be happy with the givens?....then what is life for?...

As I said What God has made...is living things...and we are suppose to be the helps of them...not the destroyers//polluters...which only brings more problems into the cause and effect, to make more mutations, virus and bacteria occur....Now some want that to happen, because they can now use these agents of death, as weapons!..to kill people...so they can conquer and take control.....it is now all about wealth, power, and control....





Ok preaching. Whatever.

Can I just say you have no proof that any of the above happened let alone happened in the order that you say it did?

But here we are living on a world that is in some respects totally in line based on or with what I said, and what is in biblical form....and we cannot kill that Garden...for if we do...we die along with it....as is now showing signs...too much pollution...the living things have some brain capacity to know when they are being poisoned...can join together to fight the foolish ones doing the polluting!!!, and end their stupidity...But some people don't care about the other living things, which service us....and the Garden...and God is one of those living things.....So we now war on God....saying some believe, but none do what is required sinlessly....Shame!
Those all say in essence not to profane anything God made Good...what God Gave freely to all...and how we are to restore something, and what Jesus said...Give back to God what belongs to God....something taken without permission....so it can be restored.....Now the wedlock is for man and woman to rejoin in the form of the first Adam...which was both male and female in nature...as written...so they could be in likeness before the fall...and restore something onto God...which they took.

That is why Gay and Lesbian wedlock is not right...it does not make the true form of Adam.[/quote]

Lots of things that go against the bible or god or whatever cherry picked thinking you want to claim are your PERSONAL religious beliefs are completely legal. You have the right to say whatever you want about but you nor anyone else has the legal right to press their religious beliefs on someone else. That is the ONLY thing that matters here.[/quote]

I am not pressing...I am preaching the truth...and it is all relevant...weather you want to listen is up to you...but as I see it, the winds are blowing harder, the sun is getting hotter, and the lands are drying up and burining!....so we know what gets cut off from God is not by God it is done...but by those who do not listen to God...and so there is the cause and effect I spoke about here and now...in the flesh...face to face........cherry pick that!.

Sorry but the truth needs to be put on the table, If we are talking about sexual conduct or what male female or other form of sexual classifications are bring brought forth...the whole is best to put on the table....so all aspects are corrected...or make the correction..or lead to the correction of ERROR!....SIN is the disobediance of God...and EVIL is the anti mentality that leads not only the evil one, but the whole world/Earth to destruction..(as written)..and it is already almost there....so how long are you going to dismiss parts you don't want communicated, so you can debate only what you want to debate.......as I said it is all relevant...so it all has to be tabled and corrected....otherwise it does not compute at all....

Now who is picking cherries here?...certainly not me.

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Old 07-25-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Where do they fit into the "No, people are not born gay/Yes, people are born gay" argument?

Why exactly would God create such people considering the bible says God created both male and female and not some combination?
The Bible mentions eunuchs, both man-made and natural.

Matthew 19:12
For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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Everything is relevant...everything has purpose...everything was formed due to cause and effect...and still is...mutating out of chaos.
Yes, the chaos instigated by the Fall of Man.

Mutation and chaos are key words here.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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Temperature has NOTHING to do with development of human genitalia or gender. You are thinking of reptiles.
You are right, I stand corrected I was thinking something about the temperture during conception and how that may or may affect the sex of the child.......too much child development reading
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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The best way to explain it all is........Shyte happens!
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Those all say in essence not to profane anything God made Good...what God Gave freely to all...and how we are to restore something, and what Jesus said...Give back to God what belongs to God....something taken without permission....so it can be restored.....Now the wedlock is for man and woman to rejoin in the form of the first Adam...which was both male and female in nature...as written...so they could be in likeness before the fall...and restore something onto God...which they took.

That is why Gay and Lesbian wedlock is not right...it does not make the true form of Adam.

Now who is picking cherries here?...certainly not me.
I like the creation myth below better:

From Plato's Symposium - the comedic playwright Aristophane's speech on Love:

http://www.anselm.edu/homepage/dbanach/sym.htm

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"Each of us when separated, having one side only, like a flat fish, is but the tally-half of a man, and he is always looking for his other half. Men who are a section of that double nature which was once called androgynous are lovers of women; adulterers are generally of this breed, and also adulterous women who lust after men. The women who are a section of the woman do not care for men, but have female attachments; the female companions are of this sort. But they who are a section of the male follow the male, and while they are young, being slices of the original man, they have affection for men and embrace them, and these are the best of boys and youths, because they have the most manly nature."
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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I was thought that everyone starts off as a female and then depending on the woman's temperture and other factors testarone or lack of it determines the sex of an individual. Sexuality is another thing all together, which is based off of what you are attracted to (or in some cases desire).
This study might shed a little light for you:

Sexual Hormones and the Brain: An Essential Alliance for Sexual Identity and Sexual Orientation. Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF
Loche S, Cappa M, Ghizzoni L, Maghnie M, Savage MO (eds): Pediatric Neuroendocrinology. Endocr Dev. Basel, Karger, 2010, vol 17, pp 22–35 (DOI: 10.1159/000262525)
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.

However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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Homosexuality is a choice, Jesus is the Answer. The bible talks about homosexuality Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

This world is passing and the things thereof, the only thing that matters is what we do for Christ. Don't let your life be in vain because Heaven and Hell is real and you are going to one or the other. This may be your last chance, give your life to Christ, get saved and do the will of God in Jesus Name! Amen
Paul also wrote in 1 Cor 11:14-
"Does not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame to him".


Oops! Guess who is always depicted with long hair?
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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Actually...The first ADAM God Made was containing both male and female...for after making that hermaphrodite man...God saw Adam number one was complaint and trustworthy...God split Adam...and made his counterpart ...or opposite...taking out the female or feminine part...in part....So one becomes two, the multiplication Of God.....You can find this traight in certain Plants...(I found it in Marijuana)...and because Marijuana in some way is being prohibited to this day...and that the human brain has receptors for compounds or elements the Marijuana contains delta 9 and Omega properties ...is so telling a tale,that Plants went into making or calling into being living things with God...Let US MAKE....for everything has a reason...the bee, the bug..the plant...the food...it is all servicing and being served, and being eaten...or consumed...decayed..and the cycle continues...if things Go along with a certain unity.....when the unity or harmonies are bent or broken,..by breaking God's design, and commandments, precepts, and covenants...creating a false system in the real system..which pollutes and distorts or second judges God's own words, and denies, profanes, or deludes people to do the opposite of what God said or commanded we do....Then we get the abomonations..mutations, and physically handicapped, ill or sicknesses/plagues....all comes from being disobediant to a set of rules God made with us to keep us clean and Holy....as Humankind...supposedly made to tend and keep the Garden well.....hows that working out today?...oh more pollution, and it is going to continue...because Humans are stupid ...yet they say they are intelligent....as God said...they believe in their lies more than the truth.....but..as truth is with God....All I can say is...he said so....Hermaphroites are more a plant based state which might of been brought into our making By God, or in use of certain plants to make Adam sleep...and that caused part of the plant to become part of Humankinds. makeup....To eat the plant...might undo what was done?....or eating God does not make one God...nor does smoking it...But planting it sinlessly..onto God...giving back onto God what belongs to God....Now that might just be something...and if it is done sinlessly...Holy Ground is made?....Perhaps that is why they don't want people planting this plant...it has nothing to do with Drugs...They (demons) do not want anyone making holy Ground for God to come and put his foot on....

There you go...simple...all Biblical....the answers are all in that Book...if one ponders the right thought process over all that is in reality, and cross references the estates in the holy book.
Very little of what you wrote here is Biblical. But you sure do make up some weird stuff.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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If we came from Monkeys...then Over time that DNA would present itself in a woman bringing a monkey out of her womb...and in the same regard...a monkey would bring a human out of its womb...over time!
Because that is the way DNA works!...
Oh dear. You don't appear to have good grip on reality let alone how DNA or evolution work.
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