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03-02-2009, 08:56 PM
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When the subject of the atrocities committed by the Christian Conquistadors and Crusaders are brought up to modern Christians, they often refute it by saying those men were not "True Christians™." The reason is that to them, it is unthinkable that true Christians would have killed people or forced them to convert in the name of God. My question then is, where were the true Christians in those days? We never really hear about an outcry from the true Christian community in much the same way people today say the moderate (read: "true") Muslims do not vehemently protest the actions of their more radical wings.
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03-02-2009, 10:35 PM
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Location: Nowhere'sville
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Hey LaughingOutLoud!  Seems to me that these so called Christians were just acting like their Old Testament buddies! After all, there is a few scriptures that say the OT is for examples and ensamples for us!  Wow, can you imagine if guys started treating their wives (all of them) and children according to OT standards? There would be stonings in the town square every night!
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03-02-2009, 11:17 PM
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Location: Rome, Georgia
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Ha! There ARE stonings in town squares all the time these days. They're just done with different kinds of rocks. |
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03-03-2009, 01:04 AM
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Back in the Old Testament times, they did not have a clinic for sexually transmitted diseases, so if such a disease got started, it would spread very quickly and kill off the better part of the population. Kind of like what is happening in Africa today. Thats where you see children that are 8 years old trying to find food to feed there brothers and sisters without any help. There was a good reason for taking action against adultry back then. However, I suppose you would think it would be better to let the population party, and then die off from disease. |
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03-03-2009, 01:33 AM
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Location: Sheffield, England
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Originally Posted by Campbell34
Back in the Old Testament times, they did not have a clinic for sexually transmitted diseases, so if such a disease got started, it would spread very quickly and kill off the better part of the population. Kind of like what is happening in Africa today. Thats where you see children that are 8 years old trying to find food to feed there brothers and sisters without any help. There was a good reason for taking action against adultry back then. However, I suppose you would think it would be better to let the population party, and then die off from disease.
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But if he actually gave a crap, God could have prevented the disease, right? Or does his omnipotence not stretch that far? |
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03-03-2009, 01:36 AM
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Location: Rome, Georgia
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Originally Posted by happynoodleboycey
But if he actually gave a crap, God could have prevented the disease, right? Or does his omnipotence not stretch that far?
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This kind of quote shows no recognition of the current philosophical arguments of moral theater.  |
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03-03-2009, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by happynoodleboycey
But if he actually gave a crap, God could have prevented the disease, right? Or does his omnipotence not stretch that far?
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Yes, God could of made it so humans could have safe sex. And then like animals they could have as many partners as they wanted. Yet sex was to be kept pure in marriage. And it was Gods desire, that man would have one wife, and that marriage would result in a family that would be raised in the love of the Lord. Yet man desires many partners, which results in unwanted children, or children that are butchered before they are born by abortion. God desired that which is good, and man preverts the good, and then blames God for the diseases brought on by their own perversions.
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03-03-2009, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LaughingOutLoud
When the subject of the atrocities committed by the Christian Conquistadors and Crusaders are brought up to modern Christians, they often refute it by saying those men were not "True Christians™." The reason is that to them, it is unthinkable that true Christians would have killed people or forced them to convert in the name of God. My question then is, where were the true Christians in those days? We never really hear about an outcry from the true Christian community in much the same way people today say the moderate (read: "true") Muslims do not vehemently protest the actions of their more radical wings.
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the true Christians were living their lives quietly, without any power/authority to tell the bad folks not to do it?
In any event, I think that some of the Conquistadors and Crusaders probably were Christians. The crusades started as an attempt to protect Christian pilgrims--not as an attempt to beat down muslims. |
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03-03-2009, 08:02 AM
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Interesting, because I hear that all the time today from Christians about other Christians. Just one of the major flaws with Christianity as a religion....."Oh well he/she is not a real Christian"
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03-03-2009, 08:32 AM
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Location: An absurd world.
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Oddly enough, the fundamentalist Christians try to fit all Muslims into one box. Even though the nonviolent Muslims denounce the militant terrorists. Double standards. Gotta love them.
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