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Old 05-09-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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You, or anyone else, has no basis to make that claim except a belief. Believing something doesn't make it true... I found that out a long time ago.
Like the article posted says: "Physicists aren't exactly sure, but their best guess is that...".

So the physicists aren't sure and the physicists are guessing. If you believe them, then you have faith in their guessing.

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Old 05-09-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Except that you are quoting a book of mythology.(fiction)

What about that time Horus resurrected from the dead? Bet hundreds or thousands in Egypt (supposedly) saw that happen...why no more of it then ?
I was speaking of the Supernatural and how you can test God and EXPERIENCE the super Natural. The God of the bible is not without proof when you test God in how he says to test him.


How do I test Horus, to then experience the super natural?
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Probably the same as people base
their belief in a multiverse, faith.
Maths, science. Not faith.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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and double bugger....Come on Mystic..."Is this the problem with Transponder we wonder?"

So another vid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGZrNG0f-Mw

I don't know....I'm surprised at how much these Prosperity -gospel televangelical swindlers make my bile froth.

I rather like the ol' 'Top ten best...' (or worst). Why isn't there a "Top ten most detestable faces of religion"?

Oh...P.s...Dont. Be. Too. Irritated. By. The. Talk- host's stilted.Mammer. Of. Speaking,

It's better to have it clear and comprehensible than the hard -to -listen -too babble of some of them.

And a p.p.s. I looked and there is a top 10 most hateful....

I almost posted it, but y'know. Mike Huckabee was No 2, and i didn't find him hateful. Not on the basis of what he said. I didn't agree with him, but what he was saying was not in itself hateful (the engineering of the Kim Davis case came close). I could understand and even sympathise with his viewpoint; just not agree. At all. But he didn't make my liver broil.

Those fake healers and prosperity guzzlers do. I think they are criminals. Frauds and swindlers, and they should be arrested, tried and Jailed.

Btw. How long did Creflo get?
Those Tv evangelists are not really 'fake healers', the healings they do are real, and the people do get healed, but its the source that is the problem.

Think about it, in order to be a false prophet, the deception would have to be pretty darn good and effective in order to fool so many people, if they were not really healing anyone, thats not very convincing or effective.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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Those Tv evangelists are not really 'fake healers', the healings they do are real, and the people do get healed, but its the source that is the problem.

Think about it, in order to be a false prophet, the deception would have to be pretty darn good and effective in order to fool so many people, if they were not really healing anyone, thats not very convincing or effective.
Really? You think Benny Hinn really heals people?
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Those Tv evangelists are not really 'fake healers', the healings they do are real, and the people do get healed, but its the source that is the problem.

Think about it, in order to be a false prophet, the deception would have to be pretty darn good and effective in order to fool so many people, if they were not really healing anyone, thats not very convincing or effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuP5uOI7Xwc
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Really? You think Benny Hinn really heals people?
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Those Tv evangelists are not really 'fake healers', the healings they do are real, and the people do get healed, but its the source that is the problem.

Think about it, in order to be a false prophet, the deception would have to be pretty darn good and effective in order to fool so many people, if they were not really healing anyone, thats not very convincing or effective.
I haven't done research, but I've read enough exposes to doubt that real healings are what we are getting.

And you can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool a lot of them a lot of the time. Especially is they dearly want to be fooled and resent anyone trying to tell them they'd been fooled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zsve_GMeo8

( I didn't post the Popov expose as it's too well known by now. And yet there are some who are in denial about it)
It's interesting to look over the comments. The refusal to accept the facts. The accusations of not seeing the truth because of lack of Holy Spirit (read deluded faith). Is truly saddening. How can you help those who won't accept that they need help?

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Old 05-14-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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You guys are not understanding the multiverse. Theist please stop misrepresenting what cosmologists are trying to say.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQnh6--mX30


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06VoxcP0i8&t=1467s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj6tUW-zNQg&t=495s
No one needs to be a scientist to
know nothing cannot be posited as
something without lying.
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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No one needs to be a scientist to
know nothing cannot be posited as
something without lying.

Yeah. Like a god-thing.
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