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Old 05-07-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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But you said:

There is absolutely no evidence for single celled organisms becoming multicelled organism other than pregnancy.

Well there it is. Evidence, but I guess nothing will make you accept that it can happen.

The planet is 4.5 billion years old, this was just a thing that happened as a result of needing to survive from another single celled predator. Assuming the predator also evolved, left for 2 billion years or so, who knows what may evolve?
You know this is not what I was asking for, they are still single celled organisms and they have not formed a multicelled organism therefor nothing other than grouping has been proven similar to coral or in this case a sponge.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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did anyone else notice that the peanutbutter jar's packaging was already open? lol just to make sure nothing crrrrrrawls out!
lol
but seriously....it SSSSSSSAddens me to see things like that in this day and age! and it's even more pathatic for others to buy into it!
You all know that he was merely pointing out just how ridiculous the abiogenesis theory is, watch the whole thing and you will see this. He is using similar sarcasm as is used against the creationist view.

Now please, can we get to some real proof for what we are looking into?
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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You know this is not what I was asking for, they are still single celled organisms and they have not formed a multicelled organism therefor nothing other than grouping has been proven similar to coral or in this case a sponge.
Science cannot replicate intsta-poof, that is the evidence you are looking for.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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Science cannot replicate intsta-poof, that is the evidence you are looking for.
Exactly, they've never been able to replicate abiogenesis in the lab. No spontaneous life from nothing. Totally agree with you for once.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Exactly, they've never been able to replicate abiogenesis in the lab. No spontaneous life from nothing. Totally agree with you for once.
insta-poof = magic = godunnit

Abiogenesis can at least be explored. Just because it has not been done yet, does not mean it cannot be done.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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insta-poof = magic = godunnit

Abiogenesis can at least be explored. Just because it has not been done yet, does not mean it cannot be done.

Just because you haven't seen good enough proof for God's existence doesn't mean He doesn't exist....right?

Just apply the same logic. Abiogenesis flies in the face of accepted science....but people are willing to give it a pass because they'd rather believe in it than a creator.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Just because you haven't seen good enough proof for God's existence doesn't mean He doesn't exist....right?
Was a christian for 30 years drank the KoolAid, all a sham and nonsense. You keep assuming atheists are not aware or did not grow up in a christian environment. How many times do we need to tell you this?

Your god is a figment of your own imagination, nothing more. The voice in your head is your own imagination. I too had voices "speaking" to me because I chose to believe they were real. If I want I can still invoke them and tongues. In fact I can do it sooo good I can do it in your church and you will not tell the difference.
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Just apply the same logic. Abiogenesis flies in the face of accepted science....but people are willing to give it a pass because they'd rather believe in it than a creator.
Accepted "science" like creationism?

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Old 05-07-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Science cannot replicate intsta-poof, that is the evidence you are looking for.
That is not what I am looking for but you must understand we are looking for similar evidence for both Creation and Abiogenesis and neither can be replicated at this time to eithers satisfaction.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Was a christian for 30 years drank the KoolAid, all a sham and nonsense. You keep assuming Atheists are not aware or did not grow up in a christian environment. How many times do we need to tell you this?
The difference is, you tried to believe and couldnt where we do believe without trying. I fought against Christianity, cursed it, hated it and then the Lord opened my eyes. Not some church or preacher, but God Himself.

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Your god is a figment of your own imagination, nothing more. The voice in your head is your own imagination. I too had voices "speaking" to me because I chose to believe they were real. If I want I can still invoke them and tongues. In fact I can do it sooo good I can do it in your church and you will not tell the difference.
Come on into our Church and speak in togues all you like, you will only make a fool of yourself. Clearly you do not understand true Christianity and have only tasted of the pretenders.

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Accepted "science" like creationism?
Abiogenesis is not science but it is sciences attempt at disproving creation.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Was a christian for 30 years drank the KoolAid, all a sham and nonsense. You keep assuming atheists are not aware or did not grow up in a christian environment. How many times do we need to tell you this?
You apparently believe you can read my mind and know my thoughts.

Some of you claim to just be totally unchurched, never growing up in the church...some of you claim to be church-goers once. I realize there are 2 types.

My point is that if you apply the same logic to abiogenesis as you do to God it falls apart.
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Your god is a figment of your own imagination, nothing more. The voice in your head is your own imagination. I too had voices "speaking" to me because I chose to believe they were real. If I want I can still invoke them and tongues. In fact I can do it sooo good I can do it in your church and you will not tell the difference.
Accepted "science" like creationism?
I think abiogesis is a fiction of your imagination. Now what?

I don't know what your experience was in church, and don't pretend to. But it sounds like it was a bit "out there".
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