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Please post a reply and tell us all Physics is not science, with a smack on my head lol.
Dopo can't be a literature major That is not science for sure. Some folks even call it the science of language
If you cannot digest intelligent people not willing to jump into the anti-religious bandwagon, it's nothing but sheer intolerance. I see this intolerance in every day life.
You can try to get over it or a better way would be to assist rifleman in his arguments.
You can't do either of those, all you wanna do is insult Dopo?
Please post a reply and tell us all Physics is not science, with a smack on my head lol.
Dopo can't be a literature major That is not science for sure. Some folks even call it the science of language
If you cannot digest intelligent people not willing to jump into the anti-religious bandwagon, it's nothing but sheer intolerance. I see this intolerance in every day life.
You can try to get over it or a better way would be to assist rifleman in his arguments.
You can't do either of those, all you wanna do is insult Dopo?
Kindness forever, Eff! For kind men, the punishment is self-inflicting. Which is why my own brains chose to melt. I'm posting from inside the fridge right now recrystrallizing the melted fragments, it's cold in here
You see, I have been in rifleman's threads and I've jested (guilty!) a bit inside his threads. But never insulted him or will insult him, for I think he's a very intelligent man of science.
Kindness forever, Eff! For kind men, the punishment is self-inflicting. Which is why my own brains chose to melt. I'm posting from inside the fridge right now recrystrallizing the melted fragments, it's cold in here
You see, I have been in rifleman's threads and I've jested (guilty!) a bit inside his threads. But never insulted him or will insult him, for I think he's a very intelligent man of science.
i see?
at best the invisible hand of a great creator modeling effie's uneducated mind to a thermo-dynamic state of enlightenment... the crystals may remain elsewhere, so be it!
Science is stuff like paleontology, anthropology, geology, nuclear physics, medicine, etc.
While certain scientific theories related to the degree is learned, it is within the confines of a subject like industrial electronics. No one debates the atom or periodic table. One may study light and the harmonics of light waves or radio frequencies etc. So engineering is pretty much "applied science" Math serves the greater part of the studies.
I picked up on another thread he is in the cellular industry or IOW telecommunications.
See, engineers make the "toys" scientists work with. While a degree is a Bachelor of Science (BSc) that does not make you a scientist.
But I guess if a scientist came up with an idea for a new fangled electron microscope or other dandy instrument, he/she would approach an engineer rather than a theist for his/her help.
Maybe in the USA engineers may think of themselves as scientists but then again I have seen folk there refer to a high school diploma as a "degree" It does seem one can get a doctorate easily when one looks at folk like Hovind.
Science is stuff like paleontology, anthropology, geology, nuclear physics, medicine, etc.
While certain scientific theories related to the degree is learned, it is within the confines of a subject like industrial electronics. No one debates the atom or periodic table. One may study light and the harmonics of light waves or radio frequencies etc. So engineering is pretty much "applied science" Math serves the greater part of the studies.
I picked up on another thread he is in the cellular industry or IOW telecommunications.
See, engineers make the "toys" scientists work with. While a degree is a Bachelor of Science (BSc) that does not make you a scientist.
But I guess if a scientist came up with an idea for a new fangled electron microscope or other dandy instrument, he/she would approach an engineer rather than a theist for his/her help.
Maybe in the USA engineers may think of themselves as scientists but then again I have seen folk there refer to a high school diploma as a "degree" It does seem one can get a doctorate easily when one looks at folk like Hovind.
maybe not only in the usa. well said. good insight!
As I've said more than once, "science" came about because different but equally curious minds were simply trying to answer questions about the world around them. And get at the actual, reliable truth.
We can accept that, yes? But their methodologies differed vastly. and many were, frankly, quite "bad" One guy took many sample counts in order to determine the average population of ants in his tent, while another only counted once and thought that was enough.
Another girl claimed to have found the cure for Clinton's Syndrome (where you think that, if you smile at the girls, they will automatically believe anything you say...). She tried it once, it worked, and she "knew" she had a cure. Her apprenticeship as an intern was thusly terminated early.... bad science, I'd say....
But when it was aplied to the masses, it didn't always work.
So we derived the necessary Science of Statistics.
Over time, we've derived a methodical and very rigorousprocess for Q&A, and to deviate is to invite internal distain or, at the least, sincere concern about the validity of your particular pet project from your fellow professional scientists.
To discredit that process? That's like distaining the idea of boiling water as a means of disinfecting it, or announcing that the development of your new HDTV was flawed, even though it works perfectly.
My idea here was/is to point out how that process has produced some highly reliable techniques by which we measure the world around us, by which we answer nagging questions about our purpose, our future, our current living conditions.
When the process does provide insight, it's often met with great harrassment, instinctive distain and even hatred. Why, one wonders....
Because it threatens the philosophical staus quo is why. It has, and will continue to, shatter old mythologies that rely on a single, ancient text written by those who, sadly, didn't have the advantage of such a productive and reliable system for finding the truth.
In essence, the methods I've outlined here, apparently no-one disputes (there's been not a single technical question). Just comments from those who question my sincerity, my knowledge ("he's just a Wiki Professor!", etc.) and my intentions. Yes, I use the internet to source info. If you're gonna pay my professorial fees, I'll write up the lesson plan off the top of my head.
Anyhow, I hope some of you may have benefitted from the information. I assure you, it's all true, and again, I took great pains to outline the known and accepted limitations of both methods. Science never hides these; only AiG and their smelly anti-science ilk choose to selectively quote-mine the results, and to criticize all science.
I won't take up more of your time with the twenty or so other newer, and even more interesting dating methods. Just know that they are equally defensible, have limits, and are honestly applied by techicians of great integrity. The results? Factual evidence for a multi-milliion-year old Earth, and a billions of years old Universe. Stay tuned for even more startling revelations in the future!
Unfortunately, the results may not bode well for a strict Creationist perspective, but hey; we can perhaps fit it in somehow, eh?
Someone once said, "Can't we all just get along?" I doubt it......
Last edited by rifleman; 05-07-2009 at 12:09 PM..
Reason: clarifications
(mooaaannnnnn... even Evil scientists have feelings.....)
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That is not science for sure. Some folks even call it the science of language 
aca.de.my ... break down?
Dr. Rifleman?
You can leave... etc.
