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At first I thought TKramer didn't know what the definition of a "virgin" was.
But I'm starting to suspect that instead he doesn't understand the anatomy and physiology involved in most female orgasms.
Given the limited knowledge many evangelicals have about sex, It's entirely possible he believes a female's orgasm is dependent upon penetration, and that's why he thinks a virgin could not have had an orgasm.
Here's his picture, you make the call:
You misunderstand me. I'd say that if you've masturbated, you're no longer a virgin. Thus, your premise would be wrong. Just because no one else was involved, doesn't mean that you didn't have sex. Having sex--even with yourself--means you are no longer a virgin.
You misunderstand me. I'd say that if you've masturbated, you're no longer a virgin. Thus, your premise would be wrong. Just because no one else was involved, doesn't mean that you didn't have sex. Having sex--even with yourself--means you are no longer a virgin.
In your original post you said a virgin cannot orgasm. The definition of orgasm is an "intense or paroxysmal excitement." A virgin can have that without sex or masturbation.
You misunderstand me. I'd say that if you've masturbated, you're no longer a virgin. Thus, your premise would be wrong. Just because no one else was involved, doesn't mean that you didn't have sex. Having sex--even with yourself--means you are no longer a virgin.
I hate to say this but that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in months. The common accepted meaning of losing your virginity is by actually engaging in sex with another person, not by masturbating. If we used your definition of virginity the percentage of virgins in junior high school would be approximately zero.
And that matters how? Sex is sex, doesn't matter who it's with, if it ends with the same result.
You're just making matters worse for your argument. What exactly is the result you're referring to? Sex between a man and a woman can result in a pregnancy. Masturbation does arouse an individual but has no consequences.
And that matters how? Sex is sex, doesn't matter who it's with, if it ends with the same result.
I wonder, good sir, since you are not married but have a girlfriend, are you sexually active?
By this, I mean, do you have much experience in either the " female orgasm" business or the "sexual penetration" business? (just so there's no confusion!)
If so, do you consider your sins every bit as bad as the sins of a gay man? And do good Christians like Kb attack you to the same extent they attack the gay community?
You misunderstand me. I'd say that if you've masturbated, you're no longer a virgin. Thus, your premise would be wrong. Just because no one else was involved, doesn't mean that you didn't have sex. Having sex--even with yourself--means you are no longer a virgin.
Yer bonkers mate...
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