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That's a good point. I think anytime a person can blame his/her bigotries on a larger force - whether it be God, a political ideology, a sense of racial superiority, or anything else beyond the individual - it becomes much easier to express hatred in violent ways. There was just a thread on the Christian forum calling Christians to warfare against the 'enemy' and advocating the use of guns.
Just so happens that in the still very young U.S., with our peculiar adherence to religion that every other developed nation long ago abandoned, that is the most visible and powerful expression of that hate ... er... "love" to help people see the "truth".... I mean "Truth".
You presume one belief preceded the other.
What about those who only accept those ideas after exposure to them rather than them having them first?
I think anti-gay christians would be anti-gay whether they were christian or not. They seem to see everything that is different than them as wrong, and they interpret scripture to support their beliefs.
People who do not interpret scripture their way are wrong, people of different religions are wrong, and people who have a sexual orientation that is not like their own are wrong.
IMO, these kind of people gravitate to the kind of church that already supports their narrow minded view of the world.
Criticize it all you like; just remember that there is more than one type of Buddhism and that you're painting all Buddhists with the same brush. Also keep in mind that there are cultural problems that cause a lot of issues that are unrelated to the philosophy one holds.
Remember it especially when the maniacs from the Westboro Baptist Church start doing crazy things again, non-xtians start pointing fingers at all xtians, and you start blabbing that it has nothing to do with you because you're not "that kind" of xtian.
How comical. After paintaing Christians with one brush you take umbrage for someone doing that to you. At least that had the common decency to spell your belief system as it should be.
It is easier to have other people do all your thinking for you rather than actually thinking for onesself so that someone forms their own thoughts and opinions. Since they think that their religion condemns homosexuality, then they also will condemn homosexuality.
So Christians never give these issues critical thought?
Well, it wasn't me that was insulting in my other thread. I was just trying to keep it on-topic, and it got closed anyway.
I realize that this can be a very touchy and volatile subject and some things can get insulting and inflammatory, however I also know that this subject about gays and homosexuality can be discussed in a civilized manner and as long as it is done within that context I will have no problem with keeping this thread open. I am a little more open-minded about the subject, however I will not tolerate insults, disrespect, name-calling, or any other kind of inflammatory remarks. So let's keep it civilized.
To me, the God I believe in does not condemn a person whether straight or gay. I believe we are supposed to love each other and not be condemning people right and left. But then again I have been told many times by fellow Christians that I can't be a true Christian...so there you go.
Its hard for me to fathom that a loving God would punish us for love. That makes no sense to me.
Many pedophiles commit acts because they "love" children. Would a loving God punish them for their love? A group of polygamists? A man who loves his dog? A man who rapes a woman because he loves her though she refuses him?
I agree and this is why science possesses an integrity that religion does not.
Not knowing is not seen as a barrier but as a challenge to expand knowledge and intellectual horizons.
Religion is just mired in "certainties" and "absolutes" and its own and unique "truth" that it discourages all forms of questioning and changes of behaviour/thinking. It is a stagnant pool which never changes. I call that unhealthy and dangerous.
Is this why so many atheists tout science even though they firmly believe there is no God yet they have nor evidence to the contrary?
Many pedophiles commit acts because they "love" children. Would a loving God punish them for their love? A group of polygamists? A man who loves his dog? A man who rapes a woman because he loves her though she refuses him?
Love can be seriously misplaced.
It amazes me that you compare these things to being homosexual. If two consenting loving adults are in love and committed to one another how is that even close to the things you mention above? I know I am not going to change your way of thinking as you are not going to change mine. We can just agree to disagree.
Many pedophiles commit acts because they "love" children. Would a loving God punish them for their love? A group of polygamists? A man who loves his dog? A man who rapes a woman because he loves her though she refuses him?
Love can be seriously misplaced.
Really now...You call the stuff you mentioned love?
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