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Old 06-04-2009, 09:24 AM
 
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Many Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin because of the chapter of Leviticus.

Leviticus also talks of people with disabilities. What can we learn about God’s view of the disabled according to the inerrant Holy Scripture?

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Leviticus 21: 17-23 says “Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, or a man that is broken footed, or broken handed, or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; no man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy and of the holy, only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish, that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the Lord do sanctify them.” God excluded all of these people from service because he felt that their physical distinctions would “profane” his sanctuaries (verse 23).

Is it not cruel to endow a person with some physical distinction, something that has nothing to do with their capacity for faith and worship, and then discriminate against them for it? Could it be that a man could profane the temple because he is less than average height? Does the shape of a man’s nose have anything at all to do with his sincerity or his ability to serve God? No, these are clearly ordinances set forth by a petty and discriminatory group of men who placed more significance on outward appearances than on inward virtue. But the Bible says these are God’s commandments to discriminate. So this kind of discrimination against the handicapped can only be morally wrong if the Bible is wrong.

Should we derive our morality from such a book, a book that promotes racial separatism and sexual discrimination, a book that fails to condemn slavery and human sacrifice, a book that encourages discrimination against the handicapped and the idea that there is no such thing as a war crime, and that the murder of men, women, children and animals for land gain is God’s plan? I don’t think so. We know better.


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Old 06-04-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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Don't forget (although apparently you already have!) that you're applying 21st century American sensibilities on a book that was written at least two millenia ago. "Discrimination" is in the eye of the beholder--the way you see things today may not be the way people saw it in previous eras.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Don't forget (although apparently you already have!) that you're applying 21st century American sensibilities on a book that was written at least two millenia ago. "Discrimination" is in the eye of the beholder--the way you see things today may not be the way people saw it in previous eras.
I totally agree! In fact, that is true of most all of the OT!
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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I can recall that this topic has been addressed in the last year or two and I have to agree that the Bible does seem indicate that a handicapped person is somehow not worthy. I agree with what Fred314X wrote because even a century ago the treatment of handicapped people was deplorable but if you go further backwards in time it becomes apparent that certain individuals who didn't seem to fit the norm were often seen as being under the influence of satan or some other entity and they were subjected to torture and even murder. The Salem witch trials is a perfect example of what a superstitious community is capable of.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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I can recall that this topic has been addressed in the last year or two and I have to agree that the Bible does seem indicate that a handicapped person is somehow not worthy. I agree with what Fred314X wrote because even a century ago the treatment of handicapped people was deplorable but if you go further backwards in time it becomes apparent that certain individuals who didn't seem to fit the norm were often seen as being under the influence of satan or some other entity and they were subjected to torture and even murder. The Salem witch trials is a perfect example of what a superstitious community is capable of.
This is why ANY political candidate is of a religious denomination that interprets the bible as the literal inerrant word of God, will never get my vote!
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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t was the Christian teachings that showed the dualistic view of children, they could be either pure and innocent, or a collaborator of the Devil. As a result, a child who today would be categorized as learning disabled was defined as evil, an accomplice to the Devil. This dualistic view went further to say that someone could be born a witch. Another possibility was that the Devil or an evil midwife substituted a demonic infant. If children were born deformed or disabled, they were seen as satanic creatures. Parents of these children would often give them up to orphanages, leave them on doorsteps, or kill them. Those children that were kept were mistreated. Most of the time, the church did very little to stop such abuse.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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Many Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin because of the chapter of Leviticus.

Leviticus also talks of people with disabilities. What can we learn about God’s view of the disabled according to the inerrant Holy Scripture?





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Once again someone who does not know scripture is taking it out of context. The scripture you are referring to was Gods standards for becoming a priest. This was not the view of all disabled.
God did not want the priest to be disabled because if they were then they would not be able to assist those who were disabled. When you read the word of God you must understand the context of the passage you are reading.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Once again someone who does not know scripture is taking it out of context. The scripture you are referring to was Gods standards for becoming a priest. This was not the view of all disabled.
God did not want the priest to be disabled because if they were then they would not be able to assist those who were disabled. When you read the word of God you must understand the context of the passage you are reading.
"flat nose"? really, grasping for straws much. It's obvious evil in that idol scripture.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Don't forget (although apparently you already have!) that you're applying 21st century American sensibilities on a book that was written at least two millenia ago. "Discrimination" is in the eye of the beholder--the way you see things today may not be the way people saw it in previous eras.

Right, except this is supposed to be the absolute moral authority of the utlimate source of unchaning morality in this universe.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Once again someone who does not know scripture is taking it out of context. The scripture you are referring to was Gods standards for becoming a priest. This was not the view of all disabled.
God did not want the priest to be disabled because if they were then they would not be able to assist those who were disabled. When you read the word of God you must understand the context of the passage you are reading.

Ahh and there it is - the tired old "context" card, the #1 copout from the handbook of the Biblical apologist.


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