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Old 07-01-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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i brought up a subject based on thoughts generating as frequency on my other post and i was challenged to elaborate this theory well here is a scientific explanation by Neale Donald Walsch

CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD by Neale Donald Walsch - Book 1, Chapter 13

"Nothing occurs in your life - nothing - which is not first a thought. Thoughts are like magnets, drawing effects to you. The thought may not always be obvious, and thus clearly causative, as in "I'm going to to contract a terrible disease." The thought may be (and usually is) far more subtle than that. ("I am a loser.") ("God is going to punish me.") ("I am sick and tired of my life!")"


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Old 07-01-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Thought knows no distance. Thought travels around the world and traverses the universe faster than you can say the word.
I have to disagree with your whole OP although I can understand how someone could find the concept to be intriguing. The only place that thoughts can travel are inside of the human brain. That's because they're a function of the brain and cannot exist independently outside of the human body. It's true that our brains are incredibly complex and there are many mysterious qualities to consciousness that we don't quite have a handle on yet but we do know that particular parts of our brains are associated with memory, emotion, etc. I do agree that having a positive mental outlook is going to be beneficial to one's health and well being and I think you make some pretty good points about that but I feel like you're greatly exaggerating things when you suggest that healers can somehow use their own personal mental abilities and positive thoughts in such a way that it can heal another person. I believe that is impossible.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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there exists something called thought transference. proof always coming with the same simple examples such as one knowing who's gonna be the next phone caller.

with some good self-examination, one can develop sufficient awareness to agree with the op's statement as well as understand montanaguy's eager objection to it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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I have to disagree with your whole OP although I can understand how someone could find the concept to be intriguing. The only place that thoughts can travel are inside of the human brain. That's because they're a function of the brain and cannot exist independently outside of the human body. It's true that our brains are incredibly complex and there are many mysterious qualities to consciousness that we don't quite have a handle on yet but we do know that particular parts of our brains are associated with memory, emotion, etc. I do agree that having a positive mental outlook is going to be beneficial to one's health and well being and I think you make some pretty good points about that but I feel like you're greatly exaggerating things when you suggest that healers can somehow use their own personal mental abilities and positive thoughts in such a way that it can heal another person. I believe that is impossible.
maybe not healing another person but you yourself has to believe you healed, try experimenting it first before you judge MontanaGuy i know for a fact that what ever we believe is possible it is done, while on the other hand it won't work if you believe that the impossible remains impossible, these are laws of the universe. You can disagree with me but i hardly fall ill and when i do, i don't take any prescription drugs instead i believe that am healed either through prayer or meditation and it works.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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maybe not healing another person but you yourself has to believe you healed, try experimenting it first before you judge MontanaGuy
Ok, I have very high cholesterol and need to take medication to lower it and I also have so much plaque built up in my arteries that after a recent test I was told that I have a high probability of having either a stroke or heart attack within the next two to five years. Are you suggesting that if I change my attitude and adopt some sort of philosophy that my arteries will clear up and it will be like I was eighteen years old? Can you see why I am skeptical of faith healers and those who believe that I can correct these conditions by using the power of my own mind?
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:01 PM
 
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the op is surely aware that a good healer needs to go into the frequency spectrum of a client rather than expecting them to rigorously follow some positive make-believe.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:06 PM
 
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jackdonekings wrote:

I have to disagree with your whole OP although I can understand how someone could find the concept to be intriguing. The only place that thoughts can travel are inside of the human brain. That's because they're a function of the brain and cannot exist independently outside of the human body. It's true that our brains are incredibly complex and there are many mysterious qualities to consciousness that we don't quite have a handle on yet but we do know that particular parts of our brains are associated with memory, emotion, etc. I do agree that having a positive mental outlook is going to be beneficial to one's health and well being and I think you make some pretty good points about that but I feel like you're greatly exaggerating things when you suggest that healers can somehow use their own personal mental abilities and positive thoughts in such a way that it can heal another person. I believe that is impossible.
That's not true. The OP is absolutely accurate. I have tested this concept for years.

Where your argument is flawed is in assuming that the mind exists within the brain rather than seeing the brain as a processing unit of a larger collective mind (not unlike the Internet or the Force in Star Wars - sans the leaping from tall buildings).

Regarding the issue of healing, it may be too late for your artery issue if you've lived decades in a lower level of consciousness. But, I have known a few people who have managed to heal (it's not faith healing, it's more scientific - just learning how to harness energy).
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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jackdonekings wrote:

Ok, I have very high cholesterol and need to take medication to lower it and I also have so much plaque built up in my arteries that after a recent test I was told that I have a high probability of having either a stroke or heart attack within the next two to five years. Are you suggesting that if I change my attitude and adopt some sort of philosophy that my arteries will clear up and it will be like I was eighteen years old? Can you see why I am skeptical of faith healers and those who believe that I can correct these conditions by using the power of my own mind?

Have you heard of kelation? Supposed to be some sort of therapy for plaque buildup.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:07 PM
 
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Have you heard of kelation? Supposed to be some sort of therapy for plaque buildup.

jeckish! i love that.............


YouTube - Kelation- Where I Fall

mr. montana, sir, that should cure you, eventually.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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jeckish! i love that.............


YouTube - Kelation- Where I Fall

mr. montana, sir, that should cure you, eventually.
Apparently I spelled it wrong.... I meant this Chelation therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
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