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Old 07-24-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Cairo - Egypt
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i don't have to respect islam. it's a bull SH*T religion just like all other religions. There is no God and you have no proof. just like all other religions. your God says that he's the only one true God. just like all other religions. Your God says to kill all others who don't believe in him. just like christianity and some other religions.

i don't have to respect something that's imaginary.


Like I said before no need to fight......Believe whatever you want and leave the others beliefs in peace. it is human behaviour.

Who said God allows to kill people who don't believe in him...........In any holy book you read this? That is not true, and I think you are still alive........right??

 
Old 07-24-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Like I said before no need to fight......Believe whatever you want and leave the others beliefs in peace. it is human behaviour.

Who said God allows to kill people who don't believe in him...........In any holy book you read this? That is not true, and I think you are still alive........right??
what if i show you versus? will you then shut up?
 
Old 07-24-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Cairo - Egypt
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what if i show you versus? will you then shut up?
Okay.
 
Old 07-24-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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Okay.
from the bible:

luke 19 verse 27
my enemies which will not accept that i should reign over them; Bring my enemies here and kill them in front of me.
 
Old 07-24-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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sorry , i though you are human being


i didn't twist anything , i quoted from quran directly


enlighten me with your knowledge , but don't forget to give me the relation between what you gonna to say and the hight of the flood
I am, of course, a human being, but of no blood relation to you or even cultural relationship. So please don't bother with the demagogery.

And you did indeed quote directly from the Quran, and then proceeded to apply concepts that are clearly absent.

The biblical Great Flood, the same one found in the Quran, states that your god flooded the entire earth, not a portion, and no "localized flood" either. The very first proof that this cannot occur is the simply fact that there is not enough water on the planet.

You claim that a localized flood occured yet could also inundated an entire mountain. This is physically impossible. Gravity and hydrodynamics would not allow this. Water would flow towards the lowest point, into riverbeds and eventually out to sea. The ONLY way a mountaintop could be inundated is in the event of a global flood, which is patently impossible.

There is also a complete and utter lack of any marine fossils found on any mountain range but the Rockies, which were once the seabed of an inland sea that encompased our midwest states millions of years ago.
 
Old 07-24-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Cairo - Egypt
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from the bible:

luke 19 verse 27
my enemies which will not accept that i should reign over them; Bring my enemies here and kill them in front of me.

Alright!! This verse from the bible.......Unfortunately I did not read it so I will leave this for the christians to reply........But I am pretty sure There is an occasion to say that in this time.........Everything happens for reasons.

Give me something from The Quran to understand your point.

Anyway God does not want to kill you because you won't believe in him.........What kind of God it will be. He does not need you at all.
I think this is an excuse to become as atheist.............to relief yourself from the obligations.

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Old 07-24-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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Alright!! This verse from the bible.......Unfortunately I did not read it so I will leave this for the christians to reply........But I am pretty sure There is an occasion to say that in this time.........Everything happens for reasons.

Give me something from The Quran to understand your point.

Anyway God does not want to kill you because you won't believe in him.........What kind of God it will be. He does not need you at all.
I think this is an excuse to become as atheist.............to relief yourself from the obligations.
NO!
you said "In any holy book you read this? That is not true"
you didn't say in this book or that book. you said 'any'.

NOW HONOR YOUR WORD AND....WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID YOU'LL DO!
 
Old 07-24-2009, 06:54 PM
 
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Why are the atheists in this thread so....hostile?

Calm down. While y'all may think the religious folk think irrationally, y'all are reacting irrationally.
 
Old 07-25-2009, 01:26 AM
 
Location: egypt
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And you did indeed quote directly from the Quran, and then proceeded to apply concepts that are clearly absent.
i think that it's you who apply concepts that are clearly absent . quran never mentioned that the flood was for all the world rather it mentioned that it was for tribe of noah

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The biblical Great Flood, the same one found in the Quran, states that your god flooded the entire earth, not a portion, and no "localized flood" either. The very first proof that this cannot occur is the simply fact that there is not enough water on the planet.
guess what ? i believe that bible contains errors as for it isn't words of God
noway to blame quran for the errors you found in the bible

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You claim that a localized flood occured yet could also inundated an entire mountain. This is physically impossible. Gravity and hydrodynamics would not allow this. Water would flow towards the lowest point, into riverbeds and eventually out to sea. The ONLY way a mountaintop could be inundated is in the event of a global flood, which is patently impossible.
it was mentioned in quran
44 - Then the word went forth: O earth swallow up thy water, and O sky withhold (thy rain) and the water abated, and the matter was ended. the Ark rested on mount Judi, and the word went forth: Away with those who do wrong

i never said that the level of water kept over the mountain , actually quran said that after the matter was ended the ark rested on the mount which means that gravity and hydrodynamics made the water flow towards the lowest point

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There is also a complete and utter lack of any marine fossils found on any mountain range but the Rockies, which were once the seabed of an inland sea that encompased our midwest states millions of years ago.
Noah's Ark was discovered in mid May of 1948 by a local Kurdish shepherd boy
 
Old 07-25-2009, 03:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Evidence-is-key View Post
from the bible:

luke 19 verse 27
my enemies which will not accept that i should reign over them; Bring my enemies here and kill them in front of me.
Thats a Parable that Jesus used! Its best to read the whole thing to get a clearer picture of what Jesus is saying!

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