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Old 08-10-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Which Ramese was that?



Just a note: You made a slight spelling error. It's Ramses, not Ramese. No problem though, I knew who you meant.
"Rameses" is no error. Spellings vary in historical accounts of persons mentioned: in the Bible, Jasher, 1 Enoch, and other historical records, multiple names are given for single persons for various reasons; mostly to denote events in their lives or circumstances of birth.
Pharaohs adopted other names to themselves also, even though they already had multiple names given to them.

And there is no "scholarly" consensus on the dates of the Egyptian dynasties, but the Book of Jasher tells us about almost all of the names of the rulers in Egypt from within 4 decades after the fall of the Tower of Babel to the time of the Exodus. Joseph was a mighty ruler in Egypt for many decades, and in Egypt, he was not called Joseph, but also had multiple names.
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*Note: Scholars still debate exact dates of ancient Egyptian reigns and dynasties.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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"Rameses" is no error. Spellings vary in historical accounts of persons mentioned: in the Bible, Jasher, 1 Enoch, and other historical records, multiple names are given for single persons for various reasons; mostly to denote events in their lives or circumstances of birth.
Pharaohs adopted other names to themselves also, even though they already had multiple names given to them.

And there is no "scholarly" consensus on the dates of the Egyptian dynasties, but the Book of Jasher tells us about almost all of the names of the rulers in Egypt from within 4 decades after the fall of the Tower of Babel to the time of the Exodus. Joseph was a mighty ruler in Egypt for many decades, and in Egypt, he was not called Joseph, but also had multiple names.

So then what was the point to build such a gigantic statue of Ramses? Why not lifesize?
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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It's the other way around. Delk has to show he's right and that his single find is sufficient to overthrow a few hundred years of geological data contradicting him..
The point is that the geological column only exists in textbooks, being a fairy tale made up, first, from the imagination of a man who denied the Word of God as true; and so he wrote his fiction account to lie against God's Word.
The geological columns have never existed in nature as the fairy tale charts in fairy tale books present them, and geologists who are honest know that is so -but hey! a living is a living, and who cares about truth? "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die!"

There is a YEC geologist, Dr Andrew Snelling who is a graduate of http://www.unsw.edu.au/
and of http://www.usyd.edu.au/
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...Andrew completed a Bachelor of Science degree in Applied Geology with First Class Honours at The University of New South Wales in Sydney, and graduated a Doctor of Philosophy (in geology) at The University of Sydney, for his thesis entitled A geochemical study of the Koongarra uranium deposit, Northern Territory, Australia. Between studies and since, Andrew worked for six years in the exploration and mining industries in Tasmania, New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia and the Northern Territory variously as a field, mine and research geologist. Full-time with the Australian creation ministry from 1983 to 1998, he was during this time also called upon as a geological consultant to the Koongarra uranium project (1983–1992)....

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Old 08-10-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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If anyone would like to explore this claim, feel free to see read the following paper.

The Entire Geologic Column in North Dakota (http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm - broken link)
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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If anyone would like to explore this claim, feel free to see read the following paper.
This will be ignored because it's legitimate science and can't be explained away with some simplistic answer.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Pan Terra wrote:

This will be ignored because it's legitimate science and can't be explained away with some simplistic answer.

It wasn't directed to anyone in particular, just to anyone following along that was curious about how this claim came to be and if they wanted to learn about basins around the world that do contain strata from every geologic period comprising the entire geologic column. YSM telling me that there is no geologic column is like telling me that it is impossible for man to build a newfangled flying contraption and actually fly, right after I step out of the Jet-way, after arriving on the Houston to Dallas "red eye," and proceding into the terminal and heading to the baggage claim and just too tired to give her any notice, I just want to get home. Or it would be like explaining to a light bulb the myth of electricity.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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So then what was the point to build such a gigantic statue of Ramses? Why not lifesize?
Monuments are life sized? -since when?

Carving History - Mount Rushmore National Memorial

The Sumerian tablets show giant "kings", with normal sized humans and lions with them.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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The point is that the geological column only exists in textbooks, being a fairy tale made up, first, from the imagination of a man who denied the Word of God as true; and so he wrote his fiction account to lie against God's Word.
Darwin didn't come up with the concept of a geological column. In fact it predates him quite a bit. You're going to have to come to grips with the fact that you're arguing against a lot of scientific disciplines, not just biology.

(And of course, not everybody agrees what is and what isn't God's Word.)

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The geological columns have never existed in nature as the fairy tale charts in fairy tale books present them, and geologists who are honest know that is so -but hey! a living is a living, and who cares about truth? "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die!"
Having to postulate that just about everybody on the other side of an issue isn't merely wrong, but willfully lying, should make you think about how good your case really is.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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The Sumerian tablets show giant "kings", with normal sized humans and lions with them.
As do the Egyptian wall paintings. You have no case that the Sumerians are alone in depicting oversized authority figures. Zero.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:02 PM
 
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Monuments are life sized? -since when?

Carving History - Mount Rushmore National Memorial

The Sumerian tablets show giant "kings", with normal sized humans and lions with them.
What, do you think they'd make the kings knee high?

Kings back then generally weren't very keen on being viewed on the same level as their subjects.
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