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Old 10-19-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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Two lists. List A, that which we can "prove exist" by the scientific, empirical evidence and list B, that which cannot be "proven" by empirical evidence.


List A, The "Empirically provable":

Fungi
Bacteria
Urinary tract Infections
Yeast Infections
Athlete's Foot
The element Uranium
Sulfuric Acid
Germs
Hemeroids


List B, That which is not "Empirically Provable":

Beauty
Delicious tastes
Pleasent Smells
Love
Humor
Contenment
Wonderful Music
Hope
Fun
GOD


Ever notice how the best things in life are rarely "provable" via the "empirical evidence"? so then is it just me, or does GOD appear to be in rather good company?
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Empirically proveable

Apples
Pigs
Beer
community activities

need I continue?

Things not proveable

Hate
Anger
Pain
Heartache
Fear


I can do this all day to.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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Two lists. List A, that which we can "prove exist" by the scientific, empirical evidence and list B, that which cannot be "proven" by empirical evidence.


List A, The "Empirically provable":

Fungi
Bacteria
Urinary tract Infections
Yeast Infections
Athlete's Foot
The element Uranium
Sulfuric Acid
Germs
Hemeroids


List B, That which is not "Empirically Provable":

Beauty
Delicious tastes
Pleasent Smells
Love
Humor
Contenment
Wonderful Music
Hope
Fun
GOD


Ever notice how the best things in life are rarely "provable" via the "empirical evidence"? so then is it just me, or does GOD appear to be in rather good company?
You ever notice how people don't seem to understand the difference between a word that describes an object, and a word that describes an opinion... (excluding god, I can label anything as a god)
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Nowhere'sville
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You ever notice how people don't seem to understand the difference between a word that describes an object, and a word that describes an opinion... (excluding god, I can label anything as a god)

Yeah. Your non provable list is just basically opinions. One person my find beauty in a snow covered mountain while the next sees it as an icy death trap. Opinions.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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The concept of "empirically proving" something is somewhat subjective, really. What are your standards for deeming something empirically proven?
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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I found this using google, I agree with it.

Empirical Evidence in Scientific Research

Scientific evidence is considered empirical when it can be observed by many people and all will agree as to what they observed. An example would be reading a thermometer. No matter who observes the thermometer, it still displays the same temperature. The counterexample to this is physically sensing warmth or coolness. Observer A might sense that a room is warm, while observer B senses that the same room is cool. These observations differ depending on the observer, and are therefore considered subjective. Evidence that is not dependent on the observer (i.e., is objective), that appears the same no matter who observes the evidence, is considered to be empirical evidence.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:57 PM
 
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I found this using google, I agree with it.

Empirical Evidence in Scientific Research
Scientific evidence is considered empirical when it can be observed by many people and all will agree as to what they observed. An example would be reading a thermometer. No matter who observes the thermometer, it still displays the same temperature. The counterexample to this is physically sensing warmth or coolness. Observer A might sense that a room is warm, while observer B senses that the same room is cool. These observations differ depending on the observer, and are therefore considered subjective. Evidence that is not dependent on the observer (i.e., is objective), that appears the same no matter who observes the evidence, is considered to be empirical evidence.

There are other ways of proving something other than what Scientific Research says is the right way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition_(knowledge)
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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You like ignoring my post don't you.
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You ever notice how people don't seem to understand the difference between a word that describes an object, and a word that describes an opinion... (excluding god, I can label anything as a god)
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:00 PM
 
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Empirically proveable

Apples
Pigs
Beer
community activities

need I continue?

Things not proveable

Hate
Anger
Pain
Heartache
Fear


I can do this all day to.
Hate-useful, as long as we hate a thing and not a person


Anger-wonderful, as it drives people to change things they don't like

Pain-it teaches us to see beyond our limits and allows us to test ourselves

Heartache-The origin of so much poetry and song

Fear-What would horror movies be without them?


I can do this all day.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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You ever notice how people don't seem to understand the difference between a word that describes an object, and a word that describes an opinion... (excluding god, I can label anything as a god)

So, then, love, delicious food, and wonderful music do not exist in your reality? Or are there some people's who's reality they do exist in, but not in others?

Then we are in agreement.
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