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Old 05-04-2023, 02:56 AM
 
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What would make you cut someone out of your life? It's obvious from reading all these threads that some things/sins bother some people more than others.

In my case, it's an abusive parent. I struggled with trying to have a relationship with him in spite of what he had done not just to me but everyone around him. I felt that I had to be the bigger person and forgive, because one of the Ten Commandments is to honor your mother and father.
After being completely humiliated in public (in a Christian bookstore, no less) because he once again was arguing with someone, the salesperson, about how dare they push anything other than the King James Version of the Bible on anyone (it's a bookstore, for crying out loud) - I experienced what I like to call an Alfred Hitchcock moment. You know, like scenes from his movies where a defining moment is defined even further by the zoom of the camera lense....it all came crashing in at me.

All the things he had ever done and swore that he didn't, all the things he was still doing and never once admitting to having done anything wrong or uttering the words I'm sorry or please forgive me....it was like I was in a vacuum in the middle of that store, frozen with my mouth dropped open. On the way back I confronted him and I remember two things that he said. One, he said that someone had to set that woman straight because she was wrong, and the other was that the only reason I was any kind of decent human being was because of him. My response? No, Dad, I am a decent human being IN SPITE of you. I walked away and he was still blabbing as I closed the garage door. That was 6 years ago.

What would force you to completely remove someone from your life? Is there someone you need to remove right now or have you had to do this already? I got past the honor your parents thing with the help of my mother. God says to honor, He doesn't say you have to take abuse. I honor him by staying away from him. No more harsh words, anger, rage, hitting, or me feeling inadequate in every way. I have a relationship with my God in spite of the way he twisted religion and the Bible. But I had to fall hard before I searched for the truth for myself. Don't make my same mistakes....life is never good without Christ! What say you?
This is unforgivable. Condoning this is unforgivable.

Ezekiel 9
[4] And the LORD said unto him
[6] Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women:

Samuel 1 15:
[2] Thus saith the LORD of hosts
[3] Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Joshua 6
[21] And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
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Old 05-04-2023, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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This is unforgivable. Condoning this is unforgivable.

Ezekiel 9
[4] And the LORD said unto him
[6] Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women:

Samuel 1 15:
[2] Thus saith the LORD of hosts
[3] Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Joshua 6
[21] And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Why did God issue those commands?
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:12 AM
 
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Why did God issue those commands?
Because the people were wicked. Including their children and babies, which were systematically hacked to death with swords.

Wicked
Adjective
Evil or morally wrong.

Isaiah 45:
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not blaming God. God doesn't exist. PEOPLE do wicked things.
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Old 05-04-2023, 09:50 AM
 
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Because the people were wicked. Including their children and babies, which were systematically hacked to death with swords.

Wicked
Adjective
Evil or morally wrong.

Isaiah 45:
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not blaming God. God doesn't exist. PEOPLE do wicked things.
God named and placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden and gave the command to not eat of it.

Only God can separate good and evil in complete equity. Which is what that chapter touches upon.

What is it you are trying to project in quoting that scripture with evil...Lord in all capital letters. And then hide behind your next sentences.

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Old 05-04-2023, 03:22 PM
 
Location: USA
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God named and placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden and gave the command to not eat of it.

Only God can separate good and evil in complete equity. Which is what that chapter touches upon.

What is it you are trying to project in quoting that scripture with evil...Lord in all capital letters. And then hide behind your next sentences.
God also created, with His own hands, Adam and Eve to be ignorant and guileless, the serpent to be "subtl," placed them all in the garden together with perfect foreknowledge of what the result would be, and then condemned both sides and their offspring IN PERPETUITY when the inevitable result occurred.

WHATTA GUY!
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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God also created, with His own hands, Adam and Eve to be ignorant and guileless, the serpent to be "subtl," placed them all in the garden together with perfect foreknowledge of what the result would be, and then condemned both sides and their offspring IN PERPETUITY when the inevitable result occurred.

WHATTA GUY!
I know!

Sorta Cecil B. DeMille-like. Great plot for a fantasy movie.
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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God also created, with His own hands, Adam and Eve to be ignorant and guileless, the serpent to be "subtl," placed them all in the garden together with perfect foreknowledge of what the result would be, and then condemned both sides and their offspring IN PERPETUITY when the inevitable result occurred.

WHATTA GUY!
How would you have done differently?
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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God also created, with His own hands, Adam and Eve to be ignorant and guileless, the serpent to be "subtl," placed them all in the garden together with perfect foreknowledge of what the result would be, and then condemned both sides and their offspring IN PERPETUITY when the inevitable result occurred.

WHATTA GUY!
You believe all that, eh? A garden, the Fall of Man stuff...ok. I don't myself.
And I never blame the Creator, this Brilliant Spirit! I'm a Trekkie, btw and imagine this Being as a super 'Entity'.
That's just me....little ole me blaming a Genius Divine Mind creating galaxies
and maintaining them ...like as if it's my place. It isn't. Just sayin, it's a diff angle, different strokes. My 2 cents.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:15 PM
 
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God also created, with His own hands, Adam and Eve to be ignorant and guileless, the serpent to be "subtl," placed them all in the garden together with perfect foreknowledge of what the result would be, and then condemned both sides and their offspring IN PERPETUITY when the inevitable result occurred.

WHATTA GUY!
You have been gone for awhile and I had been wondering how you are doing. I hope you are doing well.

Have a nice day.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:24 PM
 
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You believe all that, eh? A garden, the Fall of Man stuff...ok. I don't myself.
And I never blame the Creator, this Brilliant Spirit! I'm a Trekkie, btw and imagine this Being as a super 'Entity'.
That's just me....little ole me blaming a Genius Divine Mind creating galaxies
and maintaining them ...like as if it's my place. It isn't. Just sayin, it's a diff angle, different strokes. My 2 cents.
Of course I don't believe it. The Adam and Eve story is what anthropologists refer to as a creation myth. Believers though refer to it as though it is actual recorded history.
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