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Old 05-04-2023, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The result God got, since nothing else is possible.
What is that?
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Old 05-04-2023, 09:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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What is that?
The fall of humankind.
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Old 05-04-2023, 10:47 PM
 
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The fall of humankind.
Actually it was not a Fall. It was the very first lesson in a long line of lessons we need to learn to reach adulthood as Spirits. It is the essential first lesson: -- the distinction between Good and Evil. The Bible chronicles those SPIRITUAL lessons and our miserable performance in learning the correct lessons (as do all myths and legends in the spiritual fossil record as our Spirits grasped to understand our existence).
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Old 05-04-2023, 11:47 PM
 
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Actually it was not a Fall. It was the very first lesson in a long line of lessons we need to learn to reach adulthood as Spirits. It is the essential first lesson: -- the distinction between Good and Evil. The Bible chronicles those SPIRITUAL lessons and our miserable performance in learning the correct lessons (as do all myths and legends in the spiritual fossil record as our Spirits grasped to understand our existence).
Was there ever a chance of success for humanity? Or did things always turn out as God knew they would?
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Old 05-05-2023, 05:33 AM
 
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The fall of humankind.
Anything good result from the way God chose to set up the world?
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Old 05-05-2023, 09:48 AM
 
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Was there ever a chance of success for humanity? Or did things always turn out as God knew they would?
They have progressed as they inevitably would given the utter ignorance with which our Spirits begin their lives in this physical milieu. I decline to assign the Omni attributes to God absent any indication they are likely. I make an exception for the Omnipresence as a Christian PanENtheist, obviously.
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Old 05-05-2023, 07:05 PM
 
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Actually it was not a Fall. It was the very first lesson in a long line of lessons we need to learn to reach adulthood as Spirits. It is the essential first lesson: -- the distinction between Good and Evil. The Bible chronicles those SPIRITUAL lessons and our miserable performance in learning the correct lessons (as do all myths and legends in the spiritual fossil record as our Spirits grasped to understand our existence).
But why do we have to reach adulthood in Spirits? Why would God need that?
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Old 05-06-2023, 12:09 PM
 
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But why do we have to reach adulthood in Spirits? Why would God need that?
We are reproducing Spirit. That involves spiritual insemination, fertilization, growth, and maturation in this physical womb until death (rebirth as Spirit).
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Old 05-06-2023, 01:43 PM
 
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We are reproducing Spirit. That involves spiritual insemination, fertilization, growth, and maturation in this physical womb until death (rebirth as Spirit).
we are already spirit.
spirit before incarnation. before inhabiting a physical body.
spirit during incarnation. while inhabiting a physical body.
spirit after incarnation. after physical body "dies" and spirit leaves the physical body.


unborn. uncreated.
always was. always will be.

no reproduction. at all.
reproduction is birth life death .

spirit does not die.
spirit is not born.


a materialist physical biological model is irrelevant
to spirit because spirit is not physical and has no form or biology.
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Old 05-06-2023, 01:44 PM
 
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But why do we have to reach adulthood in Spirits? Why would God need that?
we don't.
we don't need to "reach" what we already are.
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