New perspective on the relation between Religion and Science (quote, God, believe)

[sisyphus89]

I know this is a Big question but here is my thought.
When the major religious traditions were being established,
religions could claim the whole truth regarding the world.
But modern science demonstrates the power of empirical scientific method
and religions have to give up the empirical truths and authority to Science.
But the essence of religious traditions is the solution to the fundamental problem
of human self facing the infinite, making it possible to give a meaning to life.

I think it will be very difficult for the old religions to transform itself to be
compatible with Science since too many essential religious texts were written
based upon the outdated world view.
This suggests to me that a new religious movement which incorporate Science
in itself might be needed to keep religious traditions alive.

[SoCalAngel2009]

Originally Posted by sisyphus89

This suggests to me that a new religious movement which incorporate Science in itself might be needed to keep religious traditions alive.

Some people will never accept our Heavenly Father until they are passed over to the next world, where they will actually be able to feel His love and know that He exists. That's just the way it is.

[Sizzly Friddle]

Originally Posted by sisyphus89

I know this is a Big question but here is my thought.
When the major religious traditions were being established,
religions could claim the whole truth regarding the world.
But modern science demonstrates the power of empirical scientific method
and religions have to give up the empirical truths and authority to Science.
But the essence of religious traditions is the solution to the fundamental problem
of human self facing the infinite, making it possible to give a meaning to life.

I think it will be very difficult for the old religions to transform itself to be
compatible with Science since too many essential religious texts were written
based upon the outdated world view.
This suggests to me that a new religious movement which incorporate Science
in itself might be needed to keep religious traditions alive.

If this is a fundamental problem, does this mean that it is only a problem for fundamentals?

And then there are those of us who have no need of religion in our lives at all, and still find plenty of meaning.

There are also plenty of religious people who have no problem with science.

[sisyphus89]

Originally Posted by Sizzly Friddle

If this is a fundamental problem, does this mean that it is only a problem for fundamentals?

And then there are those of us who have no need of religion in our lives at all, and still find plenty of meaning.

There are also plenty of religious people who have no problem with science.

In some cases, people found their own solutions to the fundamental problem
outside the official religious doctrines.
But I believe that to make those solutions truly universal or acceptable to ordinary people, they have to address and answer the fundamental questions which most religions have answered.
The most important role of religions is to provide the general framework of life to ordinary people.

[unclejake21]

Originally Posted by SoCalAngel2009

Some people will never accept our Heavenly Father until they are passed over to the next world, where they will actually be able to feel His love and know that He exists. That's just the way it is.

But you have to get your ticket ahead of time.




Part of believing in God (or any other god for that matter) is believing that they do things beyond your scientific evidence. Hence that's why they are called GODS.