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Come on guys... we'll get a "rep" as intolerant, bigoted idiots, an on New Year's Eve no less! I think he/she (which is it, ovcatto, just soz we can be polite?), was just being cute. Give him/her a break; this is interesting!
So what about those very clear Sumerian wall carvings that rather clearly show helicopters, space ships and stealth bombers? Christians seem to shy away from the possible intervention and involvement by aliens. I, having actually seen a UFO (not a spaceship, an Unidentified FO...), wonder why that isn't more present in our history.
Could it be the power- and money-mongering of the Churchs? Nahhhhhh
Actually, it turns out to be Egyptian from the time of Ramses II and says: "The one of the two ladies who suppresses the nine foreign countries"
The reason for a dual creation in a different view...which came first...it is because opposites were needed...one side was before the other...the first being Eden...the second being Earth...both created by God?...well it is not fully sure...But God does state that the second (Wild Earth) was born because of Adam and Eve's disobediance to God, which God said would bring Death....and that is what was created by them...for being disobediant to God....and Because God said that they would die if they disobeyed him...God had to hold true to his word.
And because there are three created beings...the First Adam was a hermaphrodite containing both male and female genders....and God split them appart..and made them seperate beings (opposites) but in union...mates...helpers of the Garden?....
So if through disobediance (taking of the tree told not to) and being disobediance brings death , then someone had expereinced it in a dualality...from the males point of view, and the females point of view...the first Adam hermaphrodite is not part of the punishment?...But we have them here on this world because of the incestual behavior of Adam and Eve's children born in death unlocking their dna...and not righting it (the disobediance)or changing it to a positive, by puttng back sinlessly and restoring, and repenting to God.
That is the story...is it true?...well I have to believe it, because it is in part worthy enough to make one worthy, honourable, wise, knowledged, and spiritual...which is the bread and milk we all seek...Meanning.
And what is Life without meanning?
If we sinlessly put back what was taken in disobediance, and repent...we reverse death and can come back into the first estate which is Eden!
Now something like that could take a few minutes, a day, a week...a year?...a life time?...many life times?...generations?....forever?....hmmmm the ordeal has to come to an end soon...for I am not Adam or Eve...and I did not take with out permission...so I should not be accountable for their sins...But God says until the third and fourth generations the sin effects...So how do we get out of sin?.....ah ha..Jesus is the model..and he fulfilled everything!...and he says we can too....so the long effect of sin is cut short...we no longer suffer our forefathers and mothers sin...we can make our own desteny by being sinless, and restoring EDEN as best we can!
And "those who do the will of the father, shall enter it"....EDEN....it is a selffulfilling paradox...Genesis is the key...
Come on guys... we'll get a "rep" as intolerant, bigoted idiots, an on New Year's Eve no less! I think he/she (which is it, ovcatto, just soz we can be polite?), was just being cute. Give him/her a break; this is interesting!
So what about those very clear Sumerian wall carvings that rather clearly show helicopters, space ships and stealth bombers? Christians seem to shy away from the possible intervention and involvement by aliens. I, having actually seen a UFO (not a spaceship, an Unidentified FO...), wonder why that isn't more present in our history.
Could it be the power- and money-mongering of the Churchs? Nahhhhhh
Genesis 1:26-27 (New International Version)
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Perhaps another theory for suppression with the Sumerian carvings is that it would require many explanations including that of Isis, Ra and El. And explanations of the Elohim.
If only we (Christians) could agree as to whether or not Elohim is a pluralization of El, Gen. 1:26 sure seems to use it in plural form ( not in a schizophrenic manner) it would be a great start.
Glad I read your post.
Last edited by FreeThinkerInTex; 01-09-2010 at 05:43 AM..
And because there are three created beings...the First Adam was a hermaphrodite containing both male and female genders....and God split them appart..and made them seperate beings (opposites) but in union...mates...helpers of the Garden?....
In the beginning there were three parents: Sun, Moon, and Earth. Each produced an offspring, round and otherwise like itself. From sun was produced the man; from earth, the woman; from moon, the androgyne. Each of these three was a double, one head with two faces looking out in opposite directions, four arms and legs, and two sets of genitalia. They moved about on the earth with a great deal more freedom and power than humans do now, for they rolled-ran hand over hand and foot over foot at double speed.
One day, these fast, powerful, but foolish creatures decided to scale Mt. Olympus to attack the gods.
What should the gods do to show the foolish humans the error of their ways? Should they shoot them down with thunderbolts? No, they decided, too boring. They'd done that before to the giants. Besides, who would pour out libations and offer sacrifices to them if they destroyed their worshipers? They had to devise a new punishment.
Zeus thought and thought. Finally he had a brainstorm. Humans weren't a real threat, but they did need a dressing down. Their arrogance would be checked if they lost their speed, strength, and confidence. Zeus decided that if they were cut in half, they would be only half as fast and half as strong. Even better, it was a re-usable plan. Should they act up again, he would repeat the operation, leaving them with only one leg and one arm each.
After he revealed his plan to his fellow Olympians, he asked Apollo to join him in putting it into effect. The king of the gods cut the man-man, woman-woman, and man-woman creatures in half and Apollo made the necessary repairs. The face, previously facing out, Apollo turned inward. Then he gathered all the skin together (like a purse) with an opening in the middle as a reminder to mankind of his earlier state.
After the surgery, the half creatures ran around frantically looking for their other halves, seeking them out, embracing them, and trying to join together again. Unable to join, the creatures despaired and began to starve to death in their sorrow. Zeus, again mindful of his need for worship, decided something must be done to recharge the creatures' spirits, so he instructed Apollo to create a means to rejoin temporarily. This Apollo did by turning the genitals to the belly side of the body.
Before, mankind had procreated by dropping seed on the ground. This new system created an interesting new means of producing offspring.
The creatures who had been double women before, naturally sought out women; those who had been androgynous, sought out members of the opposite gender; those who had been double men, sought out the company of men, and not simply for intercourse, but so they could become whole again by being rejoined with their soul mates.
Eurynome's Creation is sthe most accurate since it answers the question, which came first, the chicken or the egg. In short, impregnated by Ophion, Eurynone laid the universal golden egg out of which all things that exist came.
I like the Haida creation story...make as much sense as any.
Long ago no divisions existed between humans, animals and spirits. All things of the earth, sky, and, water were connected and all beings could pass freely between them. The Raven was a trickster full of supernatural power. He stole the sun from his grandfather Nasshahkeeyalhl and made the moon and stars from it. The Raven created lakes, rivers and filled the lands with trees. He divided night and day, then pulled the tides into a rhythm. He filled the streams with fresh water, scattered the eggs of salmon and trout, and placed animals in the forests. The first humans were hiding in a giant clamshell and Raven released them onto the beaches and gave humans fire. Raven disappeared and took with him the power of the spirit world to communicate and connect with humans.
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