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Old 02-04-2010, 07:06 PM
 
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Religious "beliefs" are faith-based "beliefs" -- they are totally different from any other "beliefs" in everyday life.

However, it seems all religious people having trouble seeing the difference: to them, one can just "believe" just about anything and everything -- they call it "being true to oneself".
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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You’re right there is faith in that which is natural and faith in that which is supernatural, God our Creator.
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:54 AM
 
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belief is no different whatever it is directed at. How can you argue differently? It is an emotion and therefore different for each one of us.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:14 AM
 
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This is why we talk about 'faith' and 'belief'.

'Belief' is conveniently used for those beliefs which have good evidential support - that a machine will work, that your house won't have vanished overnight, that your wife won't have turned into a gibbon.

Faith is better used for beliefs based on no good evidence, Cults, fringe - science and religions come into that category.

Of course, there are degrees of evidential support, but the distinction is important. It's also a logical fallacy (equivocation) to ignore it.
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Old 11-28-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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80% of Catholicism is made up of imagined, manufactured ,embellished, doctrine with a appealing dose
of adoration ,love and spirituality addons of great people such as Mary, Apostles and assigned saints.
Itsva blasphemous enity without the slightest recognition of same. It's a manifestation of religion gone
extreme yet manages to link to scripture in many key areas. Barely christian in it's totalitary what saves
them is their belief in the Son of Man , His grace by faith which overshadows ( unbeknown to the flock)
the absolute nonsense of their victimization of pagan and inappropriate doctrines from the agaes. The
average Catholic has zero knowledge of it's origins or scope and having no simulous to care ,but are good Christians.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:52 AM
 
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80% of Catholicism is made up of imagined, manufactured ,embellished, doctrine with a appealing dose
of adoration ,love and spirituality addons of great people such as Mary, Apostles and assigned saints.
Itsva blasphemous enity without the slightest recognition of same. It's a manifestation of religion gone
extreme yet manages to link to scripture in many key areas. Barely christian in it's totalitary what saves
them is their belief in the Son of Man , His grace by faith which overshadows ( unbeknown to the flock)
the absolute nonsense of their victimization of pagan and inappropriate doctrines from the agaes. The
average Catholic has zero knowledge of it's origins or scope and having no simulous to care ,but are good Christians.
It isn't just the Catholics. Most Christian sects have beliefs that are NOT in the Bible. I have listed to many preachers teach beliefs that are not in the Bible.
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Old 11-28-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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Religious "beliefs" are faith-based "beliefs" -- they are totally different from any other "beliefs" in everyday life.

However, it seems all religious people having trouble seeing the difference: to them, one can just "believe" just about anything and everything -- they call it "being true to oneself".

So do those who believe in science.

Physical concepts are free creations of the human mind, and are not, however it may seem, uniquely determined by the external world. -Einstein

Not enough authority to you?

In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true, either is true, or becomes true. - John Lilly
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Old 11-28-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Surf city, NC
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It isn't just the Catholics. Most Christian sects have beliefs that are NOT in the Bible. I have listed to many preachers teach beliefs that are not in the Bible.


As a Pagan I hear you on that one. I have watched Pagan' do that as well for some reason it doesn't bother most of them but it gets my goat. Granted we don't sit rules or a book & most is just common sense, but Christians seem to pick & choose when it's right in front of them.
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Old 11-28-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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belief is no different whatever it is directed at. How can you argue differently? It is an emotion and therefore different for each one of us.
No, it's not. When you learn something in school or from the media or from casual conversation or from observation, you accept it conditionally, subject to adding more knowledge to put it into a context where it's truth can be empirically measured. When religious faith is taught, it is not taken as conditional, but as an absolute truth from which all other beliefs are judged.

There. I just showed you how you can argue differently.
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Old 11-28-2015, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Most "beliefs" are based upon received and/or experienced interpretations/understandings of "Reality" …

The vast, vast huge percentage of persons who very firmly "believe in," say, "the atomic theory of matter" have of course never actually personally SEEN "an atom" … but … and of course that is true also for the "Copernican" model of The Solar System …
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