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Not arguable at all to anyone remotely familiar with (legitimate) history and Christianity's origins in earlier pagan religions.
Without Christ, their would be no Christianity.
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Originally Posted by QuixoticHobbit
True, only when "God" means the men who wrote the Bible.
If there is a supreme being, he/she/it has zero need for, interest in or relation with Jesus or Christianity and certainly had no hand in the train wreck called The Bible..
What's The Difference Between Religion And 'Personal Relationship"?
Lately many believers declare that, instead of religion, they have a 'personal relationship' with god or Jesus.
Is there a difference?
Religion is a tool that we use to help build that relationship with God.
For some people religion becomes their god.
Many believers say that instead of religion they have a personal relationship.
It seems that they can't really explain themselves. This thread has them stumped.
Many believers say that instead of religion they have a personal relationship.
It seems that they can't really explain themselves. This thread has them stumped.
Do Christians really have a personal relationship with Jesus? Does it really matter, to outsiders? Are their critics eager that they should adopt ritual? Why do they criticise?
Many believers say that instead of religion they have a personal relationship. It seems that they can't really explain themselves. This thread has them stumped.
To the contrary. Several good answers were given:
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Originally Posted by AREQUIPA
That's a very good question and it's pretty deep. On the surface it's an obvious difference between the ones who turn up on sunday because it's the Done Thing and those who really believe it. But the OP is really about those who reject organized religion and do it on a one - to - one basis. That's not a new thing. There have always been those who have broken away because they are discontented with established religions.
I suppose it's not for me to speculate about why or how the breakaways do it but I don't see much difference between 'personal relationship' for theists inside or outside their churches or whatever, except that, outside, they might discover a bit quicker that what they are having a personal relationship with is the insides of their own heads.
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Originally Posted by noland123
Well for example a person can have a well-versed knowledge about the bible know it extremely well but not have a heart for the Lord. It is about impressing others with their knowledge by shoving it downs someone's throat or looking smart which is arrogance with no love. This is just one possibility.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
yes
one is rules and regulations the other is your own personal experience and individual participation
would you rather hear someone tell you about the mechanics of how to sex, how an orgasm felt to someone else? Or would you rather experience having sex yourself, experience for yourself what an orgasm feels like? which is more fun? which is more helpful? which has more credibility? which has more meaning and impact in your life?
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Religion is man-made. A personal relationship with Jesus is "God-made".
Religion expresses itself in rituals. A personal relationship with Jesus expresses itself in love.
Many believers say that instead of religion they have a personal relationship.
It seems that they can't really explain themselves. This thread has them stumped.
huh?
many great, rich, detailed answers have been given
a person's unwillingness to listen, and inability to understand, however, may prevent them from hearing what others are saying
So what are you trying to say? That Christianity has rituals, or that demon nations have rituals?
Pure escapist internet mythical gobbledegook, that.
demon nations? Just trying to figure out what exactly you are trying to say since its pure as you would say "gobbledegook"...........
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