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Back when I was a Catholic, I always wondered about the mandate for priests to be celibate. As I usually did, I questioned this. This practice of questioning usually got me into trouble, but that was always okay. One day during Theology class, I ask the priest about the celibacy thing. I received the stock answer. I guess I was sort of a weird Catholic because I read the Bible, especially to find if what they were teaching us was in there. I then followed up by saying, "Yeah but what about 1 Timothy 4:1-5? Doesn't that refute a mandate of celibacy?"
1 Timothy 4:1-5
"[1] The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. [2] Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. [3] They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. [4] For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, [5] because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer."
I was told, in so many words, to shut up. Like George Carlin said, the best cure for Catholicism is Catholic school. Don't get me wrong, if people wish to remain Catholics, that's fine by me. I just could no longer do so and I remain the happy agnostic theist I am today.
It has to do with specific people, Ted. Not the Church. They will move on and/or die eventually. I wish some of them would move on immediately, but it's not my call. I guess I can pray.
How is having anyone die or move on going solve or prevent the the same patterns from reappearing?
We have to change how the system operates or else we are just fooling ourselves.
This was in Catholic Middle School and High School (Cistercians). We were required to take Theology from 7th grade through 12th grade. I suppose I should have said, "read the Bible independently" as the lessons did use the the Bible.
It has to do with specific people, Ted. Not the Church. They will move on and/or die eventually. I wish some of them would move on immediately, but it's not my call. I guess I can pray.
No, it does have to do with the Church, because the Church is hiding these atrocities by redirecting those who are charged ,to other parishes. The Church is just as much to blame along with those(the individual priest) who are committing these heinous crimes. Aren't both parents to be held responsible for the abuse of their child ,if both of them are aware of that abuse ,yet do nothing? The Church is supposed to be acting as the,earthly caretakers, to God's children.
I just don't know that the other protestant congregations have the abuse same issues as the catholic church.
There was an article this morning in ,"The Dallas Morning News", concerning a new case involving a Protestant minister. Maybe not as many cases, but they are hardly unblemished.
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