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The largest living organism ever found was discovered in an ancient American forest.
The Armillaria ostoyae, popularly known as the honey mushroom, started from a single spore too small to see without a microscope. It has been spreading its black shoestring filaments, called rhizomorphs, through the forest for an estimated 2,400 years, killing trees as it grows. It now covers 2,200 acres (880 hectares) of the Malheur National Forest, in eastern Oregon.
The outline of the giant fungus stretches 3.5 miles (5.6 kilometres) across, and it extends an average of three feet (one metre) into the ground. It covers an area as big as 1,665 football fields.
Melvin, I stand in awe. I did not know this. Now I've gotta go and look for myself! But... will it sneak up on me, I'm wondering? Does it have an holistic consciousness? (We may never know for sure, but let's assign one, God-like, shall we?).
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Neither...the Raptor cames first.
Quite so, FB32. I started raising chickens last year, and when I pick up one of my ladies, and get up close and personal (huh?) with their heads, that reptilian eye, right out of the documentary Jurassic Park, stares, unblinking, back at me. I know what she's thinking:
"If I were only 25 feet tall, and could trade these silly useless wings in for those little front legs and clawed hands I used to have, I'd eat you for lunch, since you devour my babies daily without so much as a 'Thank you, Ma'am!' ".
NIKK, your version would require that now disproven "Insta-Poof" Genesis thing, which we all know now to be nothin' but a fairy-tale designed to teach the intellectually immature, like those kids in Sunday School. Missed the memo, huh?
Eggs being essentially a single-celled but DNA-filled organism, en-route to becoming a hugely complex multi-celled organism, effectively reflecst the progression of our own organistic evolution. Eggs prove that such complexity, from very little to very diversified, can and does happen in a matter of just a few weeks, exponential growth based on replicating cells doubling being the norm in biology.
The egg because the question does not specify what "the egg" means. Egg-laying animals clearly predate chickens and therefore eggs came before chickens.
How can the egg come before the chicken? Who laid that egg in the fist place then?
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Well I guess it has to do with religion because if you believe in evolution, it really should be the egg since the first chicken "evolved" or mutated out of an egg from some already living type of animal thats close to a chicken (maybe a rooster got it on with another sickly or mutated rooster and out popped a chicken Who knows, thats just my opinion anyways:P
I answer this way:
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The egg because the question does not specify what "the egg" means. Egg-laying animals clearly predate chickens and therefore eggs came before chickens.
Aside from the entire "eggs were here long before chicken" approach, it's important to understand why the egg comes directly before the chicken, or rather, why we can actually say that both appeared at the same time.
The chicken obviously came from the egg in which it was laid. However, whatever laid that egg was not a chicken. A chicken is an arbitrary definition of humans--a categorization for our pattern-finding category-loving brains. I tried pointing this out a little in the thread a while back, with the question of the color being orange or yellow. We can't categorically define things that exist on a spectrum.
This is what I was talking about. Is it orange? Is it yellow?
Whichever attributes we assign to a chicken, one of those attributes did not exist between the proto-chicken and the mutations that create our chicken in the egg. This is a well known phenomenon in psychology--categories.
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Who knows, thats just my opinion anyways:P
