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Old 05-20-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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Some scientists have been overcome by the shouting of atheists

Many scientists objected to this theory of Darwin, but the atheist - with their shouts and cries - overcame many scientists until many researchers could not tell their belief about the falsehood of Darwin's theory; because they will then be ascribed to non-scientific and non-logical beliefs.

One of the scientists objected to the evolutionists that:

The evolution and natural selection implies that the organism should be adapted to the new environment for a required long period: so how could the reptile become a bird while they did not fly before?

See it is here:
"Lamarck's theory and Darwin's theory are alike in being defective; because they do not explain the change from the water-life to the land-life,

nor do they explain the change from the land-life to the air-life;

for how could the reptile, which was the ancestor of the sparrow, adapt itself to an environment [: the air] which wasn't his own, and could not be his own; after changing from the form of a reptile to a sparrow?

And how could it have an air-life before could it acquire wings useful for it?"

Retorting the Atheist

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Old 05-20-2010, 09:33 AM
 
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Yes it is an answer to your question. We have many similarities between us and the "monkeys" which is obvious and of course we would not be be exactly like them, it is called EVOLUTION.

No creation, no God.
If there are some similarities between man and monkey, while there are a large number of differences (like the largely different chromosome number): does this mean they have come from the same origin?

While the genetic material is very much different.
Also the penguin looks like man from faraway, and the bear.

Therefore, you say this and assert no God creation; which is not any logical; for how can anything be done without any doer?

So I here say: Not like what you say: There is the Creator Who created all the creatures.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:35 AM
 
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Introduction to Paleoanthropology/Primates/Humans - Wikibooks, collection of open-content textbooks

The Primates: Humans
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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If there are some similarities between man and monkey, while there are a large number of differences (like the largely different chromosome number): does this mean they have come from the same origin?

While the genetic material is very much different.
Also the penguin looks like man from faraway, and the bear.

Therefore, you say this and assert no God creation; which is not any logical; for how can anything be done without any doer?

So I here say: Not like what you say: There is the Creator Who created all the creatures.

Why dont you learn about evolution before you speak about it. Oh that would take an open mind and the willingness to see past your "beliefs" which you are not capable of doing.

But just in case:
Understanding Evolution
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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Believers are different (actually not all of them are believers in fact);
some of them sink in the river and sanctify the planets,
others say about the Trinity or ascribe a son to God;
some idolaters also consider themselves believers.

The believers are only those believing in God alone without associate or patron, and devote themselves exclusively to Him alone, in addition they believe in all the apostles without exception and in all the revealed books without exception;

or else they are not the believers.

Quran Interpretation
Hummmmm, all believers are not necessarily fanatics.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Hummmmm, all believers are not necessarily fanatics.
But it helps
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:15 PM
 
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If there are some similarities between man and monkey, while there are a large number of differences (like the largely different chromosome number): does this mean they have come from the same origin?
They didn't.

They both came from a common ancestor.

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While the genetic material is very much different.
Yes. Evolution does that.

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Also the penguin looks like man from faraway, and the bear.
But not from close up.

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Therefore, you say this and assert no God creation; which is not any logical; for how can anything be done without any doer?
What exactly do you imagine god has to "do?"
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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What exactly do you imagine god has to "do?"
The billions of prayers a day from common folks asking for everything from an operation on their sister's crooked nose to deep rooted glioblastoma brain surgery...surely you jest. Just go to the mall on Saturday morning and you'll see what a magnificent job he is doing.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:33 PM
 
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Default This just in: Creationism now officially DEAD. As of 5-20-2010.

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If there are some similarities between man and monkey, while there are a large number of differences (like the largely different chromosome number): does this mean they have come from the same origin?

While the genetic material is very much different.
Also the penguin looks like man from faraway, and the bear.

Therefore, you say this and assert no God creation; which is not any logical; for how can anything be done without any doer?

So I here say: Not like what you say: There is the Creator Who created all the creatures.
What turgid and incorrect crap! There's no difference in the genome count, only in the total number of chromosomes. It's only different by ONE, not as you spout: "like the largely different chromosome number"). What illiterate hole did you pull that one out of? We're off by only one chromosome, which in humans is obviously a blend of the two chimp chromosomes. That's been proven over and over. You are spreading dis-information again.

As for things happening without a "doer", please go find the new thread I just this minute posted on R&P about the announcement by The Craig Ventner Research Institute having synthesized reproducing, self-sustaining life in the lab. It's all over the news right now, as you read this!

So, sorry, eanassir; no Creator required. Just good lab work.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:00 PM
 
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I have read this reply of Gplex and I am astonished how a man claim himself seeking after the truth in scientific way; how such man may utter such words of fallacy and only try to overcome in words and avoid admitting the truth.
See?
It is your claims and avoidance of admitting the truth and the defects of such theory of Darwin et al.
Try to consider with a scientific and logical thinking:
E.g. Mongolism (or Trisomy 21 or Down's syndrom): it is a congenital disease: some children born with this triple chromosome 21: this is the outcome of a child whose mother was usually older when she conceived him.
Here the child will have some mental retardation with varying degrees, and will keep up sexually immature.
Such individual will go between men and women and be like a messenger who is sexually and mentally not mature. The man will not fear for his honor concerning this individual go among women.
Moreover, this will demonstrate many things in this subject and explain to people many things in the present and in the future.
Here the Quran has outstripped your science; for the Quran tells us there are people and other forms of life (plant and animal) out there on the planets.
<http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#The_planets_Are_Inhabited_>
See the above paragraph.
No stupidity other than the atheism and denial of the Creator of the universe and the Lord of mankind, animals and plants.
This is on your forehead
You know the squatting.
I know that God created the male and female of every species and let them reproduce; and God created the father and mother of mankind and let them reproduce; and God still creates new species: male and female in many districts and new strange species appear unexpectedly here and there.
<http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/index.htm#I_Saw_with_My_Own_Eyes_>
See the retorting.
<http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/index.htm#The_Theory_of_the_Evolution_and_Natural_ Selection_>
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You bring an abnormal man skin as a witness; while generally speaking man's skin and hair is obviously different from that of the monkey.
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The same as above.
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Like the beard of the male goat and the mustache of the tiger or the cat? But the beard and mustache of man is quite differnt from the goat and the monkey.
Moreover, the complete beard and mustache of the Caucasian race is different from the Yellow, Black and Red races.
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No, this is not the tail; this is the coccyx. There is no tail for man, while the monkey in general has a tail.
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All animals have some sort of sounds and languages to understand each other; but this is quite different from the skilled language expressions of man in comparison to all other animals in general.
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This is in general; but does man walk on four? while generally monkeys walk on four, and if they sometimes walk on two legs, this will be temporary and not as a common way of walking.
How can you be any scientific man and cannot see the obvious differences between man and monkey!?
Unsubstantiated claims. Yes, you are making unsubstantiated claim after unsubstantiated claim. Yes I admit I was too lazy to type unsubstantiated over and over, for you many unsubstantiated claims.


YouTube - Monkey Walks Like A Human
http://www.noahsarkzoofarm.co.uk/pages/research/10-animal-classification/02-mammals/images/apes2mencomparisons.jpg (broken link)
You are ignoring the many bipedal apes that have existed for millions of years by have died out.

The similarities between humans and other primates can not be ignored.

"There can be no doubt between our close relationship to chimpanzees, our bodies are so similar the proportion of our limbs and our faces my differ; but other wise we are very very similar, the arrangement of our internal organs, the chemistry of our blood; all these are almost identical and DNA confirms that".


YouTube - The Indelible Stamp of our Lowly Origin

Evolution is the ONLY explanation that explains ALL the evidence we have.
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