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Old 05-16-2010, 05:19 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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saved from hell.
you're doing a good job of creating your own hell here on earth, casting judgements and not practicing moral standards, a reflection of your own insecurity and irrational paranoia AbadChristian.

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Old 05-16-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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saved from hell.
Yet, if they don't believe as you would have them believe, they don't believe in this hell of yours.

So, once again, saved from what?
 
Old 05-16-2010, 08:54 PM
 
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Many people read the Bible who don't believe it to be divinely inspired. It's the most influential book in Western civilization. Surely you could understand how even non-believers would have a curiosity towards it.

An afterlife? I don't know. I'd have to die (really die, no NDE), come back, and then get back to you with a concrete answer to that. I'm all for a life after this one. That doesn't mean I think one exist.

Same goes for a deity. Many atheist are agnostics. You won't find many who know there isn't a God and that it's already a closed case.

Oh boy....I think I'll mostly leave your last comment alone. This thread will plummet into a few hundred pages of back and forth bickering between non-believers and believers if we go there.

Let's just say your eyes aren't perfect. They're actually wired backwards.
I actually like your answers! You make sense, you don't seem to be too confused or arrogant! Your one of the FEW atheist I can actually TALK to. Most of them I just argue with for days on end.
 
Old 05-16-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Default Atheists? They believe that....

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That's the most frequently asked question from a religious person -- how would you answer it?

Well, it may come in different versions, but they all mean the same thing:

"What do atheists believe?"
"What do you think created the universe?"
"What are your moral values and worldview?"
"Is nature your God?"
...


I get my free time here, but atheists believe in the cyphered experience of anti-nature being my relationship for the improved god creating peace without the need to withdraw from human situations.

 
Old 05-17-2010, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Besides the Lord
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Yet, if they don't believe as you would have them believe, they don't believe in this hell of yours.

So, once again, saved from what?
Just because you don't want to believe in it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. If you say "I dont believe in cars" and then walk in the middle of a highway you will still get run over

so once again saved from hell.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 06:04 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default What is atheist's God?

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That's the most frequently asked question from a religious person -- how would you answer it?

Well, it may come in different versions, but they all mean the same thing:

"What do atheists believe?"
"What do you think created the universe?"
"What are your moral values and worldview?"
"Is nature your God?"
...

Believers simply can't process the concept of nonbelief.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Just because you don't want to believe in it doesn't mean it doesnt exist. If you say "I dont believe in cars" and then walk in the middle of a highway you will still get run over

so once again saved from hell.
Just because you want to believe in it doesn't make it true.

You continue to put up weak and easily disproved arguments and consider that everyone should immediately recognize your brilliance and devoutness.

You have proved nothing except that you believe only that which you wish to believe. Others disagree (a vast majority of humanity btw).

So, this time really try to answer, since there is no hell (even in your bible).

So once again, saved from what?

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Old 05-17-2010, 08:15 AM
 
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Just because you don't want to believe in it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. If you say "I dont believe in cars" and then walk in the middle of a highway you will still get run over

so once again saved from hell.
That would provide some anecdotal evidence supporting the existence of cars. Now if you had some anecdotal evidence to support the existence of Mr. deity then you would have used that in your example.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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Believers simply can't process the concept of nonbelief.
I think that is the root of the problem. The question is why
 
Old 05-17-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I think that is the root of the problem. The question is why
Possibly because then they would have to take respondsibility for their own actions and not have a parental figure to forgive them and tell them it is alright?

Just a thought.
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