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Old 05-10-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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I am about to enter into a new lease term after just about completing an old lease term. Our landlord is psychotic and unreasonable. We paid a security deposit for the old lease term and we are signing a new lease for a new lease term on Friday. She wants a security deposit for a whole month's rent but she isn't returning our old one because it isn't due to be returned until 30 days or whatever after the end of the lease term.

Is it typical for landlords to have two security deposits on file at once? This is is a real financial burden. Why does she need two when she already has one? Don't most landlords just roll the other security deposit over. Aren't most fees assessed when the tenant moves out?

Also, she is insisting that we sign this new lease on Friday, which is the 13th for a term that begins June 1. She wants a $2760 check for the house. We are a three person house with one girl moving out and are in the process of looking for a new roommate. She doesn't care if we have a roommate and wants the money NOW even if it means we have to sign a lease all over again when we get the third person. Do you guys have experiences with landlords being this unreasonable?

She kept asking if she needed to advertise the house. Paranoia much? The lease starts June 1st and me and my other rooommate have no intention of moving out. Why would we lie about this? I had to tell her that my other roommate and me would be homeless on the street if she advertised the house and that we'll have a third person in a few days.

Any similar experiences?

I am an attorney so I am going to argue with her until the end.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Why not just find a new place to live? I wouldn't want to continue to rent from someone like that.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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I am about to enter into a new lease term after just about completing an old lease term. Our landlord is psychotic and unreasonable. We paid a security deposit for the old lease term and we are signing a new lease for a new lease term on Friday. She wants a security deposit for a whole month's rent but she isn't returning our old one because it isn't due to be returned until 30 days or whatever after the end of the lease term.

Is it typical for landlords to have two security deposits on file at once? This is is a real financial burden. Why does she need two when she already has one? Don't most landlords just roll the other security deposit over. Aren't most fees assessed when the tenant moves out?

Also, she is insisting that we sign this new lease on Friday, which is the 13th for a term that begins June 1. She wants a $2760 check for the house. We are a three person house with one girl moving out and are in the process of looking for a new roommate. She doesn't care if we have a roommate and wants the money NOW even if it means we have to sign a lease all over again when we get the third person. Do you guys have experiences with landlords being this unreasonable?

She kept asking if she needed to advertise the house. Paranoia much? The lease starts June 1st and me and my other rooommate have no intention of moving out. Why would we lie about this? I had to tell her that my other roommate and me would be homeless on the street if she advertised the house and that we'll have a third person in a few days.

Any similar experiences?

I am an attorney so I am going to argue with her until the end.
Probably no similiar experiences, because what she is suggesting is so silly it is probably not common. Best to move on from this one and find a new place. I'd say its likely the landlord is digging for more money to keep. I would bet you doesn't return either deposits Security deposits are rolled over. I wouldn't give your landlord any more money under any circumstances. I would also check for evidence of foreclosure proceedings against the rental. It's possible the landlord is in trouble and is trying to con you to stay afloat.
However to your other issue, I wouldn't necessarily say your landlord is being ridiculous for asking you to sign the lease now even if you don't have a third person. Finding a roomate is your issue, and she wants to have secured a tenant as early as possible whether you or somebody else. But this ties in to the other issue, the landlord might be paranoid about a vaccancy because she can't afford it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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If this is a renewal lease for the same house, consult you landlord tenat laws about security deposits. Most do not allow a LL to collect another security deposit because your not vacating, just entering a new renewal period. It may let the LL collect the difference between the old secuirty deposit and new deposit but not charging twice. One thing that may happen is if the old lease is considered terminating such as having new people added or others removed, the law may let them colect again because its not a renewal but considered a new lease even if some of the same tenants are on the new lease.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Totally nuts about the security deposit. But you said it -- paranoid -- probably that you will be unable to afford rent w/o the departing roommate and wants to obligate the remaining tenants to a new contract if you are not successful in finding a third roommate.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Sounds uber-shady. I'd move. No sense in sticking around to see what scam the LL will plan next.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Why are you staying if the LL is 'psychotic and unreasonable'?

As an attorney, don't you think you should consult the applicable laws before coming here for answers? Perhaps the LL is everything you say, but it sounds like a reasonable question for advertising if you are missing roomates.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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...psychotic and unreasonable.
Any similar experiences?
Twice.
I moved on rather than stay in both situations.
Suggest you do that too.

On the flip side...
having an attorney for a tenant could make a LL seem psychotic and unreasonable.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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If it is the same people renting the same house, this is unreasonable. If you are moving to a different place with the same owner, or if the occupants are changing, this might be reasonable.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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I am an attorney so I am going to argue with her until the end.
Are you serious? I mean being an attorney and asking this question!

Of course it isn't normal but the same can be said for your post...JMO...
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