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Old 09-14-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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Sorry, but "moving is not an option"

Why?


You live in an apartment. That is the beauty of an apartment...you can leave.

Find another apartment for the same price and notify the management they are not providing you with "quiet enjoyment", the dog urine is dripping onto your rented area and you are leaving.

Tell them if they dont refund the security deposit, you will call animal control, local housing/code enforcement, and hire an attorney to file a lawsuit.

Like an abused spouse/girlfriend etc. You bring this on yourself by staying in this relationship....

You don't know this couple finances. It costs money to move. You're looking at first/last months rent, security deposit, possibly a moving company. Maybe they had to save up for this move?

Unless they can gather enough documentation to get the management company to move them to another building in the area and pay for the move, waive any fees, etc. it may not be economically possible.

They're looking at a few thousand dollars if they have to move again.
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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Call the police about the dog barking and ingore the old lady.

As for the dog pee, if your landlord wont' do anything about it, call the local Animal Control and see what they can do.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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You don't know this couple finances. It costs money to move. You're looking at first/last months rent, security deposit, possibly a moving company. Maybe they had to save up for this move?

Unless they can gather enough documentation to get the management company to move them to another building in the area and pay for the move, waive any fees, etc. it may not be economically possible.

They're looking at a few thousand dollars if they have to move again.
Sorry...a few thousand dollars?

It costs $60 to rent a U-Haul and $50 to buy pizza and beer to bribe friends to help you.

I have moved three times in the last four years and it never cost me over $150. How would moving down the street EVER cost a few thousand dollars?
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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How would moving down the street EVER cost a few thousand dollars?
As the poster said: first month's rent, last month's rent, security deposit, application fees, U-haul, bribes / payment for help, time off work. All of that can very easily go over a grand. For many people these days, that's a substantial financial burden, and one they shouldn't have to take on the basis of a crappy neighbor with an unresponsive landlord. Even though they'll get some of that back in the end, the fact that it has to be put up in the first place is the source of the problem.

OP, there has been much good advice given so far. Ignore the "LOL SUX 2 B U" posts.

1 - Review your local laws regarding pets. If nothing else, having pet urine and feces dripping onto your living space is probably a health violation. At the very least, it's disgusting, and when it comes down to it, could POSSIBLY be grounds for escaping your lease without a fee -- though you have a lot to try before it comes to that. Some municipalities also have specific rules against excessive barking, and I'm pretty sure that "all night" counts as excessive.

2 - Community noise ordinances. Surely your complex has a rule against excessive / late night noise! If they do not, what about your town?

3 - Certified letters with dates, times, and what was taken. Keep it brief, calm, and professional. "Dear LL, Be advised that on 9/13/11 between the hours of midnight and 7am, my upstairs neighbor's dog was outdoors, continuously barking loudly. This is a violation of your community noise ordinances. Please address this matter with the tenant as soon as possible. Sincerely, OP". A certified letter with a signature receipt costs about $5. It is my experience that once a business gets a second or third certified letter from you, they will very quickly understand that you are not playing around.

4 - Repeat step 3 until the problem stops. You should also review your local landlord / tenant laws to see if they provide any additional relief.

5 - Be prepared to move at the end of your lease. I know this doesn't seem right, but some landlords go off on some pretty laughable power trips. Your LL may have already decided to "teach you a lesson" by making you live with pet urine dripping onto your balcony. In his mind, he will have "won" once you move out.

The bottom line is that you need to put your foot down and you need to start taking action. Don't worry about feeling rude or confrontational -- your neighbor is being entirely inappropriate, and your landlord seems to not care. You do have rights, and only you can enforce them.

Good luck - keep us posted!
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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As the poster said: first month's rent, last month's rent, security deposit, application fees, U-haul, bribes / payment for help, time off work. All of that can very easily go over a grand. For many people these days, that's a substantial financial burden, and one they shouldn't have to take on the basis of a crappy neighbor with an unresponsive landlord. Even though they'll get some of that back in the end, the fact that it has to be put up in the first place is the source of the problem.
You have to pay rent for your place anyway, so "first month's rent" was already a budgeted expense. There are many, many places where you do not have to pay last month's rent. They are unbelievably easy to find. You will also get your old security deposit back, and can use that for the new security deposit.

As I said before, you can easily move for under $150.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Not when you want a decent place to live, at least in the parts of the country I've lived in.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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You have to pay rent for your place anyway, so "first month's rent" was already a budgeted expense. There are many, many places where you do not have to pay last month's rent. They are unbelievably easy to find. You will also get your old security deposit back, and can use that for the new security deposit.

As I said before, you can easily move for under $150.
Well as Downtown Harrisburg repeated for me there is more to it than just the physical moving expense.

You don't get a security deposit back right away. Many times it is a couple of weeks after you move out. So again if money is tight they may not have another security deposit to put down.

In regards to the physical move, depending on how much they have and if their friends helped the last time, they may not be willing to move them again so soon.

People who helped you move July 1st may not be willing to do it again a few months later.

Despite pizza and beer.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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Well as Downtown Harrisburg repeated for me there is more to it than just the physical moving expense.

You don't get a security deposit back right away. Many times it is a couple of weeks after you move out. So again if money is tight they may not have another security deposit to put down.

In regards to the physical move, depending on how much they have and if their friends helped the last time, they may not be willing to move them again so soon.

People who helped you move July 1st may not be willing to do it again a few months later.

Despite pizza and beer.
Enough beer solves any problem.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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You have to pay rent for your place anyway, so "first month's rent" was already a budgeted expense.
If the following month at the current place is already paid, and you're now paying the first month on your new place, yeah, you're going to rack up some expenses until (if) the current place gets refunded. Some of us keep our rent paid about a month in advance, as in I paid rent for the entire month of October about two weeks ago.

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Enough beer solves any problem.
Now THAT I can agree with you on!
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