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Originally Posted by moved;21519433It is now being taken care of by the USPS Inspection Service and the Water Department. Thank you all for your helpful advice.
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Maybe more attention should be paid to the OP's post of two days ago.
I guess you missed the part where the OP stated the water company already said they don't post notices like that.
No, I didn't miss what the OP said. Nor did I say the Water company posted the notice. What I also didn't miss was nowhere in any of the posted notices is a request for money to be paid to the Property Manager, as the OP suggested.
Since I don't personally know any of the principals in the matter, I can't say that the OP is a crank or the Property Manager is a jerk. But reading the letters gives no indication that anyone is asking for money unless the tenants wish to have their water service personalized.
I also didn't miss the fact that one of those "notices" is dated 2010.
No, I didn't miss what the OP said. Nor did I say the Water company posted the notice. What I also didn't miss was nowhere in any of the posted notices is a request for money to be paid to the Property Manager, as the OP suggested.
Since I don't personally know any of the principals in the matter, I can't say that the OP is a crank or the Property Manager is a jerk. But reading the letters gives no indication that anyone is asking for money unless the tenants wish to have their water service personalized.
I also didn't miss the fact that one of those "notices" is dated 2010.
Well, seems that you missed that part where they said this notice wasn't the first one..hence the one posted dated 2010.
No utility company is going to post a generic letter like that on a mailbox or a community board...instead they will send those letters, by MAIL, to the account owner/holder.
Well, seems that you missed that part where they said this notice wasn't the first one..hence the one posted dated 2010.
No utility company is going to post a generic letter like that on a mailbox or a community board...instead they will send those letters, by MAIL, to the account owner/holder.
So, your idea of them being legit is a bit off.
Perhaps your interpretation of my post is what's a "bit off". This is what I said -
"No, I didn't miss what the OP said. Nor did I say the Water Company posted the notice. What I also didn't miss was nowhere in any of the posted notices is a request for money to be paid to the Property Manager, as the OP suggested."
Since I don't personally know any of the principals in the matter, I can't say that the OP is a crank or the Property Manager is a jerk. But reading the letters gives no indication that anyone is asking for money unless the tenants wish to have their water service personalized.
I also didn't miss the fact that one of those "notices" is dated 2010."
How do you, or I, or anyone else not living at that address, know who put the notice on the mailbox? That notice could have been posted by any one of the residents who live in that complex, if we assume that it was received through the U.S. Postal Service.
I said the documents looked "legit". The OP called them "bills" but I haven't seen any "bills" in any of these posts. Only a letter stating that the responsible party is in default and offering the residents an option to prevent loss of service.
Instead of trying to find (unsuccessfully) a flaw in my logic, you might try analyzing more closely the OP and the claims (unsubstantiated) therein.
Mail is loaded from the back and the residents access the boxes from the front. If the letter is in the tenants way then tear it off and go about your business.....
The USPS has exclusive protective rights to the inside of all mailboxes everywhere in the USA. Another words no one outisde of the USPS can place mail, notes or any kind of pamphlets inside any mailbox regardless who is the owner......The end.
Contrary to popular belief, this mailbox and the others like it are not property of the USPS. These stand alone kiosks are no more the property of USPS than a rural box at a driveway or the mailbox on the front of your house. The ONLY say the USPS may have is that this notice is taped in such a way that it would need to be removed in order for some people to gain access to their mail.
The only mailboxes that are considered federal property are the ones that a restricted USPS key and are most commonly found as Post Office boxes in an actual Post Office.
Where do you get your information? I found a federal statute that says otherwise. Well, not exactly. It states mailboxes are property of the federal gov, not the USPS.
"[SIZE=3]Mailboxes are considered federal property, and federal law (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705), makes it a crime to vandalize them (or to injure, deface or destroy any mail deposited in them). Violators can be fined up to $250,000, or imprisoned for up to three years, for each act of vandalism." https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/raddocs/tipvandl.htm[/SIZE]
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