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Old 06-09-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I have had the same situation, I learned they won't move easily. They will be as nasty as they can be. Instead of fighting them say i know its hard to find a place right now (you do the looking) but I found a nice apt for whatever, and I am willing to put the deposit down and first months rent. Yes it will cost you, but you will have peace and alot less mental stress, as soon as they are out, change your phone number. Forward any mail sent to them and NEVER speak to them again. I had to do this 2 times with family members paying for my freedom, my sanity was worth it, now I dont even let people spend the night , I refer them to the local hotel.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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Thanks for sharing. This info helps alot & also teaches me a lesson to never do it again. Especially when an old friend claims
abuse & her history is to run back and continues calling him constantly to fight. Nothing like crying wolf ! Then she brings him out to our place to fight some more. What started out as a couple months stay is now almost two years & my husband asked her to move three months ago. So after a battle, I just gave her a seven day quit notice. She is still arguing that " what, you didn't file it with the court ! " We own a rental cabin business and have an LLC. We did this to get her safe & now the abuse is on us. If she would have been a client, the bill for this stay would be well over $12,000. Yesterday I received the dumbest call ever about the situation. So thinking, she wants me to file with the court so I could state rent unpaid ?! She is finally getting the move on idea. So am I.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am sorry for you. I hope this situation works out soon. It is hard to help someone and have them turn out like this. I guess we all have to learn form our experiences, but it sure is hard when you trying to do the right thing and show compassion. I now look at it from a financial perspective and I won't let emotion rule my head or my business decisions. I need the rent money to pay for taxes, upkeep etc. I can like a person, care about them, but its better to refer them to agencies for help, rather than getting personally involved, it just never seems to work out. Best of luck to you.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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They definitely have to be treated as tenants in this tenant and deadbeat paradise known as Los Angeles but even tenant landlord lawyers give conflicting advice. Don't want to have it thrown out if it goes to court. If the rent control board says they're entitled to relocation money even though they never paid rent then it may be time to follow Caleb Longstreet's advice.
You said that you had told them they could visit you for 30 days. Have you been trying to get them to move all this time.....if so, that may have some positive bearing on your side of this situation.....because you are being forced to use to legal recourse, out of desperation....because they have refused for all this time to leave as they mutually agreed to do....

I also like the advice you got from a poster regarding the fact that you need to emphasize that you really have never been a LL to them, nor they renters to you.....That has got to count for something.

I would pursue that avenue, rather than identify yourself as LL when gathering info from attorneys or agency's....rather identify yourself as a friend that has been greatly taken advantage of because of a kindness you offered.....30 days shelter for a friend....Which has now resulted in legal recourse, and undoubtedly expenses which you cannot even predict at this point.

Why not sue them civily for all the costs you've incurred because they have overstayed their welcome......also get etimates of what it is going to cost for you to hire any attorney to follow an eviction procedure, and don't forget pain, suffering and mental anguish.........if that is what has to still happen....even though they are not renters.....Take them to court, get some money out of this.....and get this on record.....Beat them at their own game! Please keep us posted.

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Old 09-09-2014, 04:30 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Any of the recent responders checked the dates on this thread?*
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Old 02-15-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: CARMICHAEL CA
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This is my scenario:
I decided to help someone out and it turns out he is con man and not a very nice person. I have asked him to leave and he refuses. The last time I asked him he said he won't be homeless, he doesn't care if I'm uncomfortable in my own apartment. He DOES NOT receive mail at this apartment. I replied with, "you won't be homeless if you're in jail".
He picked up his phone, made a call and said "if I end up in jail kill this f...... b....".
He has never given me a penny and has essentially put me in financial ruin, of which he does not care.
I thought this would be easy because he told me he is on parole, turns out he isn't. Turns out he lied about that too. I have been informed by my neighbors that when I'm at work he has females in the apartment and they are very loud. My neighbors weren't sure if it was porn or people. All of this he denies of course.
If I call the sheriff they may or may not remove him and than I would be left with the aftermath.
He needs to get out of my home and the only other thing I can think of is to provoke him into one of his fits of rage and hope someone calls the police. This is a risk I'm willing to take but I was hoping someone might have another idea.
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Old 02-19-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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I have a worrisome situation . I locked out a person who was rooming with his cousin in a house I own in Northern CA. This was almost five years ago . Almost five years prior to that , this person , who is a direct family member , moved into the house on a verbal agreement .After five years of not paying a cent ,and becoming a major disturbance in the home , where two minors also resided , I decided , after numerous verbal warnings to stay away from the 16 year old female , I locked him out .He did nothing physical with her , just engaged in conversations of very personal nature . He also sent many texts and followed her places she went in the neighborhood at night .This of coarse put her stepfather ( his cousin) on edge understandably .I could not subject the actual rent paying tenant, (his cousin and his two kids) to any more of his outbursts and erratic behavior . He has never filed a court action against me .I have receipts for storage of his property for 18 months . I still have the more important items , but have cleared the storage unit .Giving him back any of his property is fine , but he has been living on the streets since his ejection .He insists he can still take me to court .I don't think he will , as he is quite noticeably suffering a mental problem .Probably more than one . Thank you for your opinions .

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Old 05-03-2016, 02:28 AM
 
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We have our brother-n-law and his girl friend living with us for almost a year. They said they wouldn't be here long and whata ya know. They are not on the lease agreement and pay no bills. My wife has asked them to leave and they refuse to leave saying we have to give them 30 days. Please tell me what our options are to get these free loaders out of my home. Even after I told them on the 2nd week of April that they need to be out by June 1st. Do I have to go by that or can it be sooner?
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:11 AM
 
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We have our brother-n-law and his girl friend living with us for almost a year. They said they wouldn't be here long and whata ya know. They are not on the lease agreement and pay no bills. My wife has asked them to leave and they refuse to leave saying we have to give them 30 days. Please tell me what our options are to get these free loaders out of my home. Even after I told them on the 2nd week of April that they need to be out by June 1st. Do I have to go by that or can it be sooner?
The notice should be in writing (not verbal) so you have proof however, you need to look up your state statues to make sure you do everything according to your state rental laws. It also depends on whether they are considered a boarder, etc., if they are not on the lease on how it needs to be handled. Have they been paying you rent and do they get their mail there? Plus, did you have permission from your LL and/or does the LL know they are living there? If not, you could end up finding yourself also evicted for breach of your lease. If you read your lease it probably has a clause that states something about guests and length of time allowed to stay, etc.
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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What if she leaves to go up north and her brother comes to pack her stuff and now he wont leave until she gets back. And he never had my permission or was even invited to stay. She has been here for about 10 months and him 3 days. And they both have been to prison for fraud
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