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Old 10-22-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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They are very cheap, and they save lives. A few months ago ours went off in the middle of the night, I woke up feeling very sick. When we realized what it was we opened all the windows and called the local gas company. They came over within 10 minutes! It was our gas heater pilot light and they shut it off. If it hadn't gone off we could have died in our sleep. I ended up feeling very sick the rest of the day, by the evening I was fine luckily. We know someone who has family who died because of CO poisoning.

I looked here:

Virginia Landlord and Tenant Duties

Under tenant obligations:

8. Not remove or tamper with a properly functioning carbon monoxide detector installed by the landlord, including removing any working batteries, so as to render the carbon monoxide detector inoperative;

So just pay the $15 and get one.

Thanks everyone.
Beera, Yeah, i think i will.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The Virgina law here http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...FhET0ri6BANsbA

Does not say that the landlord has to install a carbon-monoxide detector but it does say:

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D. The tenant may install, within the dwelling unit, new burglary prevention, including chain latch devices approved by the landlord, carbon monoxide detection devices and fire detection devices that the tenant may believe necessary to ensure his safety, provided:
1. Installation does no permanent damage to any part of the dwelling unit.
2. A duplicate of all keys and instructions of how to operate all devices are given to the landlord
3. Upon termination of the tenancy the tenant shall be responsible for payment to the landlord for reasonable costs incurred for the removal of all such devices and repairs to all damaged areas.

So unless the tenant can show you where and what law requires the the landlord to install one, I would not feel obligated to do so.

It is possible that local building code jurisdictions might require such a device, but I'd want to verify what the requirement actually says before installing anything, just to make sure I installed the correct device.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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The Virgina law...
Does not say that the landlord has to install a carbon-monoxide detector but it does say:

It is possible that local building code jurisdictions might require such a device, but
I'd want to verify what the requirement actually says...
But if they do... or if you "volunteer" to do the work...
that may also trigger a requirement for the CO to be interconnected with the OTHER alarms.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Tenants tell us all the time what the law is in their own law book...we send them Florida tenant/landlord law and ask them to point out where it is listed.

Having said that I don't think it will hurt to have that installed or let the tenants install it themselves if it is not required....or perhaps you pay for the part and they pay for the labor.

Any safety item is never a waste and better safe than sorry.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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The Virgina law here http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...FhET0ri6BANsbA

Does not say that the landlord has to install a carbon-monoxide detector but it does say:



So unless the tenant can show you where and what law requires the the landlord to install one, I would not feel obligated to do so.

It is possible that local building code jurisdictions might require such a device, but I'd want to verify what the requirement actually says before installing anything, just to make sure I installed the correct device.
That was so nice of you and the others to look up the laws :-)

It looks like there's nothing that says the landlord has to provide it. The laws seem to give the tenant permission to get his own, and tells the tenant not to mess with any that are already installed, or make a mess when he uninstalls his own.

OP, you might want to change your addendum that you will have the tenant sign regarding the CO2 alarm, saying that the law does not require it, but you're doing so out of the goodness of your heart, but do not intend to be held liable for any damages caused by the CO2 alarm, should it prove to be faulty. Or something to that effect.

Goodness, how complicated things can get :-)
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