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Old 08-27-2014, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Redding, CA
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Moved into an apartment with the following defects (I did not see the apartment until I moved in; my roommates saw it but it was full of furniture):

1) There is a hill in the living floor and small sagging from this point to the inner & outer wall.
2) A room behind the living has bad sagging.
3) Second room has minor sagging.

From what I have been told the apartment was made in the 70s.

The property management contacted the landlord after I called and complained about it. There contractor said it was fine and suggested to the landlord that no repair was need as there was no cracked wood.

However, the hill in the living room and the sagging in the room behind it are caused by a wall in the garage (this wall sits higher then the floor and thus the hill in the living room. SO clearly this screams poor construction done if a wall on the first floor is higher & raises the floor above it causing a hill and sagging.

No information was given on the minor sagging in the other room.

I have been told by the property management that it is "safe" and wont cave in and thus no plans to fix it. However, sagging no matter what it is caused from can't be good and in my opinion should be fixed. Is there anything I can do to get them to fix it?
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:45 PM
 
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However, sagging no matter what it is caused from can't be good and in my opinion should be fixed. Is there anything I can do to get them to fix it?
You can hire a structural engineer (at your expense) to come in provide a written report that supports your belief. You may be able to file a complaint with your jurisdiction and have a building inspector come out, inspect and issue a notice to correct if they believe it's a hazard. You can run down to the courts and review case law on warranty of habitability and see if you can find decissions and the basis of those decissions regarding sagging floors.
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:15 AM
 
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Wood is always working and it is not unusual to find some settling.

If the floor is a deal breaker simply move at the end of your lease.

One of our friends in school lived in a home with a bedroom floor noticeably slanted... we would roll marbles across the hardwood...

As far as I know... the floor is still slanted.

On the flip side, you have put everyone on notice as to your concerns...
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If it wasn't obvious when you looked at the place before moving in, how bad can it be?
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Redding, CA
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If it wasn't obvious when you looked at the place before moving in, how bad can it be?

If it wasn't obvious to you I explained this already in the original post:

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I did not see the apartment until I moved in; my roommates saw it but it was full of furniture
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Redding, CA
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Wood is always working and it is not unusual to find some settling.
I am aware of this, but the issue is a construction flaw. A wall on the first floor is higher causing a hill in the living room & bedroom behind the living room. NO doubt at one time the floor was tilted, but flat. It is sagging because of the wall on the 1st floor.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Moved into an apartment with the following defects (I did not see the apartment until I moved in; my roommates saw it but it was full of furniture):

1) There is a hill in the living floor and small sagging from this point to the inner & outer wall.
2) A room behind the living has bad sagging.
3) Second room has minor sagging.

From what I have been told the apartment was made in the 70s.

The property management contacted the landlord after I called and complained about it. There contractor said it was fine and suggested to the landlord that no repair was need as there was no cracked wood.

However, the hill in the living room and the sagging in the room behind it are caused by a wall in the garage (this wall sits higher then the floor and thus the hill in the living room. SO clearly this screams poor construction done if a wall on the first floor is higher & raises the floor above it causing a hill and sagging.

No information was given on the minor sagging in the other room.

I have been told by the property management that it is "safe" and wont cave in and thus no plans to fix it. However, sagging no matter what it is caused from can't be good and in my opinion should be fixed. Is there anything I can do to get them to fix it?

Unfortunately you're not gonna get them to fix it because it's not a safety issue. Its not even a health issue. It's simply something that you don't like. I can understand if the place was leaning like the Tower of Pisa and the frame was rotting. If its that huge a issue simply give your notice and find another place.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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If it wasn't obvious to you I explained this already in the original post:
Snark much....Gees....You aren't buying the place, you're renting. Honestly, do you think you are the first person to notice this. They aren't going to fix it. Live with it, or move.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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I am sure your rent has already reflected the condition of the apartment.
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:23 AM
 
Location: California
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Sadly there is no law against cheap construction. Or at least there wasn't in the 70's.

I know apartments like that. Cheap, junky, noisy, hot/cold, whatever. That's why I always hated living in apartments. If I could wave a magic wand and change all of them into solid, insulated, soundproofed, well designed places life would be better for everyone. Too bad that's just a dream.
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