Threatening lodger won't leave (CA) (agreement, deposit, house, roommate)

[TVC15]

Work to get the laws changed in CA.

This crap would never fly where I come from. They would be out in 3 days and escorted out by a Sheriff if they did not comply.

[MordinSolus]

This reminds me a of a situation my neighbor was in last year. I wasn't his neighbor at the time so this is just his side of the story, but he basically hired a maid from hell. His wife was having health problems and he works a lot so they decided to hire a live-in maid to do all of the cooking and cleaning. Their house is pretty huge so this seems a reasonable solution to the problem. So they hired a woman through a service and she moved into their spare bedroom. For a few months everything was fine. She did her job perfectly well, she was personable and she kept to herself. But then she started slacking in her duties. She would go a week without cleaning anything, stopped shopping and cooking regularly, started having visitors over at all hours of the day and night and became very rude. When they told her she needed to shape up she flew into a rage and started making threats of lawsuits. At some point she had replaced the lock on her door and started locking herself in there all day and would only come out after the neighbors were in bed. She would eat all of their food, make messes, leave empty bottles everywhere and then slink back to her room before the sun came up. The service she worked for fired her but she refused to leave the house. The police were called but they apparently dragged their feet for weeks. Eventually they forcibly ejected the woman and arrested her for assaulting several officers. When my neighbors went into her room afterward they found it in a state of complete disrepair. She had ripped the drywall down, destroyed the floors, broken the shower door, put some kind of gunk on the windows that could not be removed. They had to replace pretty much everything in the bedroom and en suite, including the windows.

Some people are just nuts but hide it well for a while.

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by TVC15

Work to get the laws changed in CA.

This crap would never fly where I come from. They would be out in 3 days and escorted out by a Sheriff if they did not comply.

REAL ESTATE: Bill to deter squatters signed by Gov. Brown - Press Enterprise

It was covered on NPR this morning. This law will also allow landlords/homeowners to remove problem tenants

[ficed]

Update:
The sheriff came yesterday and served her the restraining order, but one of the sheriffs advised her that what we are doing is illegal and does not have any grounds, and she had to go to the court to fight it. In few words he gave her legal advice. When he went to talk to us (my wife and me) I was tempted to ask him to show me his bar exam results and his degree from a law university - but of course I did not do that fearing that he will do something to me. When we told him about the threat of pushing my wife down the stairs and if he knew about the single lodger law he was looking at me as if I was speaking Greek.
After the sheriff left we spoke to her and with a smile told us that even the sheriff had advised her that what we are totally wrong and illegal.
So we're still in the same position. Maybe worse off because now we know that we have no backing from the authorities (even when it comes to safety)... The legal system in this situation seems to victimize the victim.
I thought of all the actions everybody is talking about (and more) but then I would be the one breaking the law.
Now we are looking to find someone whom we can talk to (a Judge- government officials- or any one with authority to actually do something) about the lodger law, so we can find out why, when there is a law with such clearly outlined procedures, no-one is able to implement it.
check the procedures here;
Orange County, California - Evicting Lodgers from Hired Rooms

[MordinSolus]

First off, that deputy is a moron. If you had no legal grounds to get the restraining order then it wouldn't have been issued.
Second, make it horrible for her to live there without breaking the law. Blast loud music at night, disconnect her phone/internet, etc.

[MItoBH]

It just gets worse. I think I would go postal and she would wish she never met me.

[CALGUY]

Originally Posted by ficed

Update:
The sheriff came yesterday and served her the restraining order, but one of the sheriffs advised her that what we are doing is illegal and does not have any grounds, and she had to go to the court to fight it. In few words he gave her legal advice. When he went to talk to us (my wife and me) I was tempted to ask him to show me his bar exam results and his degree from a law university - but of course I did not do that fearing that he will do something to me. When we told him about the threat of pushing my wife down the stairs and if he knew about the single lodger law he was looking at me as if I was speaking Greek.
After the sheriff left we spoke to her and with a smile told us that even the sheriff had advised her that what we are totally wrong and illegal.
So we're still in the same position. Maybe worse off because now we know that we have no backing from the authorities (even when it comes to safety)... The legal system in this situation seems to victimize the victim.
I thought of all the actions everybody is talking about (and more) but then I would be the one breaking the law.
Now we are looking to find someone whom we can talk to (a Judge- government officials- or any one with authority to actually do something) about the lodger law, so we can find out why, when there is a law with such clearly outlined procedures, no-one is able to implement it.
check the procedures here;
Orange County, California - Evicting Lodgers from Hired Rooms

Did you read what I posted in #6 and #9?.
You want this fool out of your house, you need to follow legal procedure, and that means serving timely eviction papers to her, and filing an unlawful detainer with the local court.
There is no other way, short of either shooting her, or poisoning her.
These are the facts, and unless you start the eviction proceedings, she will be there as long as she wants.
You have been given all the advice you need to get her out, now, just act on it.
Bob.

[Ken S.]

The "nanny" in the CNN was on Dr. Phil twice, I believe. The one was quite revealing, not only is she squatting, she sues anyone and everyone, and has made her sister's life a living hell, too. I would be lying if I said I was shocked by someone who can act like this, but I've been going through something along these lines for longer than I care to remember. Some people just have a immutable sense of entitlement and a profound disregard for other peoples' feelings and rights.

[ficed]

I went yesterday to the court but the person who was supposedly there to help us fill the Unlawful Detainer form is on Vacation and no one could help us. Few lawyers we spoke too they quoted over $1500 to start the procedure.
I found an online tutorial how to fill up the form. Did it last night and Monday morning is going in to the court for filing.

[MordinSolus]

Good luck.