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Old 06-15-2015, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Are hot tubs the same as pools as far as liability is concerned? If we are landlords renting a house with a hot tub, how should that be handled?
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Garbage, NC
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Does the jello contain water?

They can fill the pool with all the dry jello powder that they can afford to buy, as long as they don't put any water into it.
It still ain't a water-filled pool.

A jello-filled pool sounds kinda awesome..
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:35 AM
 
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Does the jello contain water?

They can fill the pool with all the dry jello powder that they can afford to buy, as long as they don't put any water into it.
Jello is made with water and so is cement.

A lot of things are made with water, it does not mean they are water.
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Old 06-15-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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It depends on their insurance and community restrictions. I know when I rented my home, I wasn't allowed to have anything like pools, trampolines or the like. Once I bought, I got them all. I also know in the community next to us, they aren't allowed as owners or renters to have any above ground pools. Only inground pools were allowed.

So yeah, if I was a landlord, I would spell it out in the lease. And make sure they had liability insurance through their renter's insurance and have them sign a waiver to absolve me of all responsibilities as a landlord/homeowner etc if they really wanted that pool or trampoline etc. And even then only after I consult an attorney to be sure all that was legal.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Would I allow an above-ground pool? Hell no. They're a horrible-looking liability that kills grass and rarely ever get removed. Install a pool and you get the 3-day nasty-gram from me.
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Above ground pools are a blight on humanity. Whoever discovered them should be... evicerated!

They do make for funny youtube videos when fat people jump on them and they come apart though.

And no. No pools. Tenants by decree are not allowed any enjoyment of their sleeping facility.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:31 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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The tenant can sign all the liability waivers you want them to sign, but if the kid down the street drowns, or breaks his back on that trampoline, his parents haven't signed any liability waiver and you are very likely to be sued. Your liability insurance might cover you and it very likely might not.

Pools and trampolines are attractive nuisances. "Attractive nuisance" means "lawsuit waiting to happen".
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Old 06-16-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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I just checked my lease agreement. No provisions in there that would prevent me from doing it so my landlord could be as unhappy about it as he wants but couldn't stop me.
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Old 06-17-2015, 04:58 AM
 
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I know in our part of Florida you have a barrier of some sort around the pool. Either a fence that is at least 4 foot tall, with a locking mechanism or a screened in cage with a door that locks. Doesn't matter if its above ground or in-ground, there must be a barrier.

While the lease might not saying anything about a pool, local laws might speak volumes. We have at least 5 kids a year die from drowning in local pools. We just lost a two year old last week. Not a liability I'm willing to accept and if I was a landlord and had a pool or the tenant wanted a pool, I'd make sure they carried insurance and that the pool complied with local laws.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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Cure or quit notice. Remove pool or face eviction. My insurance doesn't cover pools, and it's in my lease that I use.

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I just checked my lease agreement. No provisions in there that would prevent me from doing it so my landlord could be as unhappy about it as he wants but couldn't stop me.
Better hope you're not month-to-month. I'd give a 30 day notice to vacate. No reason needed.
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