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Old 06-18-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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I am a renter. I have an art studio that is detached from the house, way in the corner of my back yard. I want to add a bathroom to the studio. There is no plumbing out there and I have a pretty large backyard. Do I have to tell my landlord before I add a bathroom? Can I get fined by the city for this, will the landlord get fined if I do it without permits? Will the city make me tare it down if i get caught?
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Mount Laurel
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What you are thinking of doing is not something minor. You are on the right track with knowing that may be needed, why ask strangers on the Internet. Your LL will have a quick answer for you. In the end, that's the only answer that matters.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:33 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I am a renter. I have an art studio that is detached from the house, way in the corner of my back yard. I want to add a bathroom to the studio. There is no plumbing out there and I have a pretty large backyard. Do I have to tell my landlord before I add a bathroom? Can I get fined by the city for this, will the landlord get fined if I do it without permits? Will the city make me tare it down if i get caught?
Do you live there? If so, how is he allowed to rent the garden shed as a residence?


Let's say you do add a loo. You'll have to run the water line. A new sewer and water tap fee (if on central water and sewer) will likely have to be paid. Permits will likely be required, not to mention the cost of materials and plumber.

You may be looking at several thousand dollars when the shouting is over.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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I'd be surprised if you can make a change like that without the landlord's permission and I'm guessing that doing so without that permission may be grounds for eviction. If you get an OK, you will also likely need permits from the city to add a bathroom.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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Do you live there? If so, how is he allowed to rent the garden shed as a residence?


Let's say you do add a loo. You'll have to run the water line. A new sewer and water tap fee (if on central water and sewer) will likely have to be paid. Permits will likely be required, not to mention the cost of materials and plumber.

You may be looking at several thousand dollars when the shouting is over.
Yes, I live there. IT's not a garden/shed. it's a big room on a foundation. I want to add a bathroom so I can rent it out!
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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What you are thinking of doing is not something minor. You are on the right track with knowing that may be needed, why ask strangers on the Internet. Your LL will have a quick answer for you. In the end, that's the only answer that matters.
i wanted to rent the space out. i put the question up here because i thought i might get some landlord point of views.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Kitchen and bathrooms are the most expensive rooms in a house to add/redo. $15-$20K at best. Yes, you need permission from the landlord. You would also need permission from the landlord to sublet. Permits are usually granted to the property owner not a tenant so you would need the landlord's help anyway. You will never be able to get it done on your own.

There are so many things that would have to be addressed and paid for that only the property owner can sign off on. Not to mention inspections and liability.

I know you want to do this. But why not just talk to the landlord? You run the risk of being evicted and sued within an inch of your life.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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NO! You Cant make that kind of change! Why would you think the Local Laws or the LL would even approve.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Yes, I live there. IT's not a garden/shed. it's a big room on a foundation. I want to add a bathroom so I can rent it out!

Ok. You described your use as "art studio". As it sits it's an art studio or very fancy garden shed.

Let's say you did this, to rent it out legally (assuming your landlord agrees) most livability codes would require a kitchen as well as bathroom.

As has been mentioned you're looking at thousands of dollars, a zoning hearing probably, some density issues depending on where it is.

Not to mention you'll be spending your money to eventually give your landlord a much approved property.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Most landlords will evict you if they catch you making modifications like that without their permission and cooperation. They may also be inclined to evict you if you sublease the property to another without their permission, unless your lease specifically allows you to sublease.

No competent contractor would make modifications like that to a property without the owner signing off on it. Also building permits must be taken out in the Owner's name and the Owner is subject to fines if the work is not done properly.

Just wanted to add: If you really want to do this, the best way to go about it is for you to discuss it with the landlord and offer to pay for these improvements and the costs of getting it all properly permitted, with the condition that you will be allowed to sublease the property for a certain period of time. However, I expect that once you learn the real cost of doing something like this you will change your mind, deciding it is not affordable.

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