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You, Sir, or Ma'am, are up to no good. This is coming from a person who's lived in Northern Flint. The worst area in the USA. People don't pester you without a reason, intent. People don't just bust in for craps and gigs. You mind your own business, you'll be fine.
If it says no pets, the place means no pets. MAYBE a hamster. But no pets means no dogs. Period.
Many leases I've seen have no firearms policies when in complex type units. If they say no firearms, then there's no budging.
Is it that bad that I just want to be safe from potential crazies?
Protection dogs- an actual trained one run upwards of $5000, .......
You wouldn't get much of a personal protection trained dog for $5,000. Try upwards of $20,000 for a correctly trained one and not just a badly bred one, badly and improperly trained and thus potentially dangerous. A really good personal protection dog can easily cost $30,000.
I seriously doubt that you could find any landlord that would allow a protection dog. That is too much liability. Don't get a protection dog until you own your own place and have about 8 hours a week, every week, to train and keep the dog tuned up. You have to pay for that training because you need to pay a professional agitator.
As for guns, you have to ask. All of my tenants have guns. This is hunting and fishing country. Not all landlords are going to permit them, though. It might depend upon what state you are in.
The Second Amendment applies to government not private property owners. Remember, in District of Columbia v. Heller, the United States Supreme Court limited the rights under the Second Amendment to government and public spaces. Their is no right when you step on another persons private property. States have passed laws that prohibit businesses from prohibiting firearms, but those are essentially unenforceable so states's responded by enacting laws that place a higher burden on private property owners to "post" any restrictions or carve out areas such as parking lots. However, even under most of these Second Amendment laws, states have interestingly exempted residential entities and still allow the property owner/landlord to set the rules.
Interesting. I see that Minnesota has laws that state landlords cannot prohibit residents from gun ownership.
One of my former tenants was attacked by the next door neighbor's "protection dogs", while walking down her own driveway. Viciously attacked, to the point she needed over 200 stitches. And she wasn't doing anything more than taking boxes to her car (it happened the week she was moving out of our property). The dogs got out of their yard and went after her.
The landlord of the next door neighbor (not our property) was a doctor, so the tenant sued the pants off him. Come to find out, the dogs had a bite history, and the landlord knew about it, and allowed the dogs to be there anyway. I don't know what the final outcome was, because she doesn't live there anymore, but I hope that my former tenant is now very rich.
I tell this story to emphasize why NO landlord in their right mind would allow "protection dogs". Too much liability.
As far as a dog goes most LL's don't allow pets, some who do allow only non aggressive breeds, and some only allow pets under 25 pounds.
You described my pet rental policy exactly. Plus I ask if the dogs are spayed/neutered.
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Originally Posted by Lacerta
The landlord of the next door neighbor (not our property) was a doctor, so the tenant sued the pants off him. Come to find out, the dogs had a bite history, and the landlord knew about it, and allowed the dogs to be there anyway. I don't know what the final outcome was, because she doesn't live there anymore, but I hope that my former tenant is now very rich.
If the landlord knew that the dogs were dangerous, I think it's quite possible his umbrella insurance might refuse to pay off the damages as a claim and leave the doctor responsible for the entire amount.
You described my pet rental policy exactly. Plus I ask if the dogs are spayed/neutered.
If the landlord knew that the dogs were dangerous, I think it's quite possible his umbrella insurance might refuse to pay off the damages as a claim and leave the doctor responsible for the entire amount.
Is it that bad that I just want to be safe from potential crazies?
And what if the intruders have their own guns and shoot your dogs? Then where does that leave you?
Plus, you sound too paranoid to have the calmness necessary to be an accurate target shooter.
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The Second Amendment applies to government not private property owners. Remember, in District of Columbia v. Heller, the United States Supreme Court limited the rights under the Second Amendment to government and public spaces. Their is no right when you step on another persons private property. States have passed laws that prohibit businesses from prohibiting firearms, but those are essentially unenforceable so states's responded by enacting laws that place a higher burden on private property owners to "post" any restrictions or carve out areas such as parking lots. However, even under most of these Second Amendment laws, states have interestingly exempted residential entities and still allow the property owner/landlord to set the rules.
