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View Poll Results: What should I do?
Renew the lease for a full year, save money and hope for the best 1 5.26%
Renew for month-to-month and protect yourself against uncertainty 18 94.74%
Terminate the lease and move into another apartment around here 0 0%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2017, 02:20 AM
 
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Well good for you, since you're the perfect example of the perfect employee...

1-3 per month for me is pretty good and at least as much as I'm used to in the past, before I had career stability issues.


Make this work. 2 firings in a row would be impossible to explain away.

 
Old 02-21-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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Make this work. 2 firings in a row would be impossible to explain away.
I got fired the last time....during probation at that. If I lose my job this time, it won't be a firing. It would be a lay off due to lack of work available. But I know it still won't look good. Nonetheless, I am doing all I can to make it work. Today, they are cross training me to do things that others in the department typically do, so I guess that's a good sign. I think I am going to renew my lease for the full year. The rate didn't change, which is good.

Either way, I have no fear in losing a job anymore. A recruiter once told me, "your career is never over, for the same reason why ugly people end up getting married."

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Old 02-21-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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I got fired the last time....during probation at that. If I lose my job this time, it won't be a firing. It would be a lay off due to lack of work available. But I know it still won't look good. Nonetheless, I am doing all I can to make it work. Today, they are cross training me to do things that others in the department typically do, so I guess that's a good sign. I think I am going to renew my lease for the full year. The rate didn't change, which is good.

Either way, I have no fear in losing a job anymore. A recruiter once told me, "your career is never over, for the same reason why ugly people end up getting married."

You said they rated you below average. Usually they accompany that with ways to improve specified in the review. Did they do so in this case?
 
Old 02-21-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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You said they rated you below average. Usually they accompany that with ways to improve specified in the review. Did they do so in this case?
Only verbally, and it was only for one of five categories. I was rated average on the other four categories. Average, meaning "meets expectations." However, the vast majority of employees in this country are rated "meets expectations" so it's not just me. I heard that the "exceeds expectations" rating is typically reserved for the top 10% of performers and the "needs improvement" rating is typically reserved for the bottom 10%. And 80% of people get "meets expectations."

In my case, because of that one category that was rated as "needs improvement," it caused my overall rating to be below average, by a hair. Because of that, I lost some motivation. When I get a disappointing review, I lose motivation going forward. Receiving a below average review is NOT motivating to me at all. It instantly gives me the signal that my employer doesn't care about me and they will find a way to boot me out of the company as soon as they have the chance. So, in this regard, I am sort of "checked out," but still trying to perform my best. It's hard to explain...
 
Old 02-24-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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This morning, the manager here made me make a list of all the tasks that I do and how much time it requires me to do them. It boiled down to 50 hours worth of work per month for me, on average, all year round.

I don't know how they're going to come up with an additional 120 hours of work per month for me to do.
 
Old 02-24-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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This morning, the manager here made me make a list of all the tasks that I do and how much time it requires me to do them. It boiled down to 50 hours worth of work per month for me, on average, all year round.

I don't know how they're going to come up with an additional 120 hours of work per month for me to do.
They're not. They'll use your own list to eliminate your position.
 
Old 02-24-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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They're not. They'll use your own list to eliminate your position.
God this is so stressful. I have 3 weeks left to decide whether to renew for a full year or month to month.

Paying an extra $101 per month equates to $1,212 for a full year. And if they increase it by an additional 5% after the first six months like they say they could, that's around $1,500 for the year. That's a vacation.
 
Old 02-24-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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God this is so stressful. I have 3 weeks left to decide whether to renew for a full year or month to month.

Paying an extra $101 per month equates to $1,212 for a full year. And if they increase it by an additional 5% after the first six months like they say they could, that's around $1,500 for the year. That's a vacation.

Only if you stay the full year does your scenario plan out as above. And if they raise the rent 6 months later. What's the odds that you won't stay the full year?

What if you signed a 1 year least and 1 month later lose your job and move to another area but have many month left on your annual lease. That could cost you a lot more than $1500. You have to think of that scenario too.

Looking at the most recent posts, looks like you might be losing your job very very soon. Do NOT sign the 1 year lease. You can always decide in the future(4 months from now) to sign a 1 year lease if your job seems more certain. Right now it's looking like you are going to lose your job. Don't add to your stress by signing a 1 year lease. Why are you even considering the 1 year lease with the latest update about your job?
 
Old 02-24-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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They're not. They'll use your own list to eliminate your position.



In all likelihood, yes they are. The manager is trying to determine how many hours of work needs to be spread amongst the employees who remain. and/or calculating the cost of out-sourcing some of your job. With your benefits, you are most likely costing them 85-90k, $1,700-$1,800/week for 12 hours of work per week, or the equivalent of paying an outsider $140-$150 per hour to do it. Their decision is obvious. Go month-to-month.
 
Old 02-24-2017, 09:35 PM
 
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You may want to do something outside the box. Perhaps ask your boss if they would not make any move towards eliminating your position for a few months if you immediately started a job search. I have no doubt they will eliminate your spot and that is why they asked for a list, and have not filled up your time with new tasks, so asking this privately and cordially might buy you the time you need to find a new job, assuming while job-hunting, you fulfilled this job's responsibilities and eagerly accepted any new ones they asked of you.
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