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I am dealing with rental property to get housing for my son in Richmond for college. I have a signed lease (my son and I as guarantor) for a 2-bedroom, single occupancy apartment for $449/month. My son (18) may have signed a different lease for the same property at $899/month a few weeks before but this lease was never sent to me. The property manager is claiming there are two leases (even though they don't reference each other) for the same location and are somehow additive (899+449=$1348/month). Can someone have two leases for the same property (other than cost, the leases are identical) and add them together?
I am dealing with rental property to get housing for my son in Richmond for college. I have a signed lease (my son and I as guarantor) for a 2-bedroom, single occupancy apartment for $449/month. My son (18) may have signed a different lease for the same property at $899/month a few weeks before but this lease was never sent to me. The property manager is claiming there are two leases (even though they don't reference each other) for the same location and are somehow additive (899+449=$1348/month). Can someone have two leases for the same property (other than cost, the leases are identical) and add them together?
The property manager is claiming there are two leases (even though they don't reference each other)
for the same location and are somehow additive (899+449=$1348/month).
Take this hint as a warning of things to come and find a better LL.
I am dealing with rental property to get housing for my son in Richmond for college. I have a signed lease (my son and I as guarantor) for a 2-bedroom, single occupancy apartment for $449/month. My son (18) may have signed a different lease for the same property at $899/month a few weeks before but this lease was never sent to me. The property manager is claiming there are two leases (even though they don't reference each other) for the same location and are somehow additive (899+449=$1348/month). Can someone have two leases for the same property (other than cost, the leases are identical) and add them together?
Thanks!
It’s illegal to have two leases on the same apartment from the same people unless you’re each renting a bedroom separately with a disclosure that you each have your own lease.
Are you a applicant or strictly a guarantor? If the LL is ok with your son renting and accepts his application without a guarantor he’s basically got a lease.
Normally the LL can’t have two exact leases with different amounts for the same people. It’s called double dipping
It’s illegal to have two leases on the same apartment from the same people unless you’re each renting a bedroom separately with a disclosure that you each have your own lease.
Are you a applicant or strictly a guarantor? If the LL is ok with your son renting and accepts his application without a guarantor he’s basically got a lease.
Normally the LL can’t have two exact leases with different amounts for the same people. It’s called double dipping
It might no be double dipping and double dipping is not always illegal although it can be called acceleration of rent but this is not the case here. It's possible that landlord told the son that mistake was made in first lease and that rent should been higher and he agree to sign a second lease. OP first needs to find out if another lease been signed by the son or not. If he did sign it, she needs to get copy of the lease. Remember he is an adult,so he legally can sign a lease on his own.
It might no be double dipping and double dipping is not always illegal although it can be called acceleration of rent but this is not the case here. It's possible that landlord told the son that mistake was made in first lease and that rent should been higher and he agree to sign a second lease. OP first needs to find out if another lease been signed by the son or not. If he did sign it, she needs to get copy of the lease. Remember he is an adult,so he legally can sign a lease on his own.
I understand the child is a adult. But having two identical leases for identical tenants/guarantor with different prices isn’t legal. I mean ok you have two leases. Which do you enforce. As a tenant I say the primary lease is the lowest rent amount. Or do we go by which was signed first. Or does the newer lease now override the old lease? What if o didn’t agree to end the initial lower price lease? Etc etc
I understand the child is a adult. But having two identical leases for identical tenants/guarantor with different prices isn’t legal. I mean ok you have two leases. Which do you enforce. As a tenant I say the primary lease is the lowest rent amount. Or do we go by which was signed first. Or does the newer lease now override the old lease? What if o didn’t agree to end the initial lower price lease? Etc etc
It can be addendum to the first lease. It's nearly impossible to say without knowing more details
Two bedroom college rental, it might be rented by the room and the son wanted to be the only tenant for the entire apartment so he rented each bedroom.
Mr first time poster will have to give some clarification because his post doesn't make any sense.
Sounds to me your son was planning on renting a room. Perhaps something happened to the other roommate. NOW he wants to rent the Whole Apt... & needed a Co-signer...YOU! Before you sign Ask yourself Can Son Afford this? Are You willing to pay his rent?
As for the LL Adding the 2 leases together could be a honest mistake Talk to LL Before you sign. Make sure the Lower costing one is VOID.
I got charged once for 2 apts. We moved mid lease from 1 bedroom to 2 bedroom. I got Billed for both the 1st month. They forgot to tell the computer LOL & they already moved another coupe into the 1 bedroom.
What about the Deposit? Did he pay 1/2 when he moved into the place? Could be the added cost of the other half of Security Deposit. Check this out & Make sure What ever is going on is in Writing!
Thanks All - I have had more dialog with the LL and their story is not consistent. The Apt is a 2-bedroom, but they claim they usually put two people in each bedroom but they weren't going to here (because my son and his friend didn't want other roommates?) so they said they came up with the plan to give them 2 leases for the same room. But the leases say they are Single Occupancy. The problem is that they made a mistake and the first lease is for $849 and second is $449.
I agree with Electrician4you's point: "I mean ok you have two leases. Which do you enforce. As a tenant I say the primary lease is the lowest rent amount. Or do we go by which was signed first. Or does the newer lease now override the old lease? What if o didn’t agree to end the initial lower price lease? Etc etc".
That is why I am arguing with them the second lease, which I signed as guarantor, is the newest and therefore primary lease. Also because that lease states he is getting a Single Occupancy 2 Bedroom 2 Bath apartment. It seems that with the idea of "double dipping" I could take the first lease somewhere (court?) and show that contractually they owe him an apartment at the cost because we have a signed lease saying they will provide that.
Other questions: I say he "may have signed a lease" because they claim he did and he doesn't recall. The signature seems electronic and it is a scan of printout. Seems shady.
I am strictly the guarantor but I am paying the rent.
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