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A 12-month lease on the apartment would be $715/month and a 15-month lease would be $685/month for the same exact thing.
I told the leasing agent that I'm active duty military and she did tell me I can end my lease as long as I had my orders. Then asked if I wanted 12 or 15 if I were to end up leasing.
Would there be anything wrong with signing the 15 month for the lower rent and moving out in 9 months? Cause either way I'd have to end the lease when my contract is up(9 months), wether its 12 or 15 months.
If you get orders to pcs or go tdy more than 50 miles, for 90 mays or more (i think thats the time required...google military clause) then you can terminate lease with 30 days notice. You are responsible for the full months rent following the end of 30 days.
If you are separating from the military and know your ets, then it may disqualify you under military clause. If thats the case, i would let them know up front.
What do you mean you'd have to end the rental leas anyway when your "contract is up" in 9 months?
In CA anyway, you can only get out of a lease if you have been given military orders to move somewhere else. So, if your military service will be over in 9 months, you can't get out of your lease based on military orders past that point.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of landlords will try to rip you off for your deposit knowing that it will be really hard for you to sue them after you move far away.
If you feel really sure you'll just be ripped off, then I wouldn't worry about leaving the place clean, for instance.
........ I'd have to end the lease when my contract is up(9 months),......
Military members can cancel a lease without penalty only when it is a duty station transfer. That does not apply when the term of duty is over and you go back to civilian life. In order to qualify for the free lease termination, you are required to provide the landlord with a copy of your orders that are moving you to the new duty station.
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......Also, keep in mind that a lot of landlords will try to rip you off for your deposit knowing that it will be really hard for you to sue them after you move far away. If you feel really sure you'll just be ripped off, then I wouldn't worry about leaving the place clean, for instance.......
Leaving the apartment dirty or damaged is a very sure way to guarantee that you won't get all of your deposit back. Professional cleaning is very expensive and you will be charged for it. There is no way to be "really sure" that your landlord has no intention of returning your deposit, but you can fix it so that you are guaranteed that you won't get your deposit back.
A 12-month lease on the apartment would be $715/month and a 15-month lease would be $685/month for the same exact thing.
I told the leasing agent that I'm active duty military and she did tell me I can end my lease as long as I had my orders. Then asked if I wanted 12 or 15 if I were to end up leasing.
Would there be anything wrong with signing the 15 month for the lower rent and moving out in 9 months? Cause either way I'd have to end the lease when my contract is up(9 months), wether its 12 or 15 months.
Contract is up....meaning you’re leaving the military branch (EAOS) or simply PCS elsewhere? If you’re PCS then by all means sign a longer lease for lower price, but if you’re ending service you will most likely be having issues as that won’t apply to terminate a lease in the manner you think.
A 12-month lease on the apartment would be $715/month and a 15-month lease would be $685/month for the same exact thing.
I told the leasing agent that I'm active duty military and she did tell me I can end my lease as long as I had my orders. Then asked if I wanted 12 or 15 if I were to end up leasing.
Would there be anything wrong with signing the 15 month for the lower rent and moving out in 9 months? Cause either way I'd have to end the lease when my contract is up(9 months), wether its 12 or 15 months.
Call me old fashioned but there is that whole “personal integrity” thing to take into consideration. In short supply in the US as everyone is looking for angle to get ahead and they want to force the expense onto another party. Signing a 15 month lease when you know you will be terminating in nine months may be possible but is your personal integrity worth it. Why not just be upfront instead of being dishonest?
Military members can cancel a lease without penalty only when it is a duty station transfer. That does not apply when the term of duty is over and you go back to civilian life. In order to qualify for the free lease termination, you are required to provide the landlord with a copy of your orders that are moving you to the new duty station.
Leaving the apartment dirty or damaged is a very sure way to guarantee that you won't get all of your deposit back. Professional cleaning is very expensive and you will be charged for it. There is no way to be "really sure" that your landlord has no intention of returning your deposit, but you can fix it so that you are guaranteed that you won't get your deposit back.
Odds are very heavily against a tenant getting their full deposit back. So, why kill yourself cleaning an apartment, then moving far away where it wouldn't be feasible to travel back to sue, and then have a bunch of deductions against the deposit anyway? I believe they might as well just assume they won't get the full deposit back, and make the decision to at least feel they got some value out of the deductions from their deposit by letting the landlord clean it after they leave.
Nobody likes to feel ripped off. This way, they can feel like they took some control over getting value in return.
If you're the kind of landlord who does return full deposits and a tenant doesn't believe you will, so they leave the place dirty and you make the deductions - it doesn't affect you either way, as long as there is enough deposit to cover the cleaning.
Call me old fashioned but there is that whole “personal integrity” thing to take into consideration. In short supply in the US as everyone is looking for angle to get ahead and they want to force the expense onto another party. Signing a 15 month lease when you know you will be terminating in nine months may be possible but is your personal integrity worth it. Why not just be upfront instead of being dishonest?
There is probably a clause in the lease that says if they terminate early, they will owe the difference.
Odds are very heavily against a tenant getting their full deposit back. So, why kill yourself cleaning an apartment, then moving far away where it wouldn't be feasible to travel back to sue, and then have a bunch of deductions against the deposit anyway? I believe they might as well just assume they won't get the full deposit back, and make the decision to at least feel they got some value out of the deductions from their deposit by letting the landlord clean it after they leave.
Nobody likes to feel ripped off. This way, they can feel like they took some control over getting value in return.
If you're the kind of landlord who does return full deposits and a tenant doesn't believe you will, so they leave the place dirty and you make the deductions - it doesn't affect you either way, as long as there is enough deposit to cover the cleaning.
That’s really bad advice. Sorry Snow. You usually give pretty good solid stuff but this is really not your style imo. You’re leaving yourself wide open for additional charges because everything can be made to look worse and cost more.
I dont think you’re getting any “value” out of doing as you suggested. All you’re gonna get is loss of money and absolutely no chance to argue your side in court and a bad reference if the new LL calls the old LL.
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