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Old 11-05-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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The landlord was renting by the room, with separate leases for each tenant, whom he had to procure. I once rented a room in such a house; it was at the edge of a college campus and apparently not unusual there, where high demand existed.

But in every other roommate situation, ONE tenant held the lease and was responsible for the rent being paid in full. Same thing for utilities: phone, electricity, heat. If the tenant wanted to leave a room vacant, they could do so, but they had to cover the full rent amount either way.

If your daughter doesn’t like the impending change, she needs to find another place. That’s all there is to it, unless “someone” is willing to absorb the extra cost share without filling the empty rooms.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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So a home owner can do exactly anything he wants. Period? He can put anything on the lease and either sign it or leave? There have to be some kind of laws, or at least ethics according to real estate organizations.
Not quite, but nearly yes. I've got strict no smoking, pets, landscaping, utilities, waterbeds, etc. clauses in my lease. Some of my tenants got the revised leases at renewal where they went from being allowed to have a waterbed to not in a matter of days.

I'm this case the LL is going from room rentals to the whole home rental. I don't see anything even remotely unethical about it, or illegal. Normally when a LL makes such a drastic change they kick the current tenants out and just finds a new group who want to rent as one. This LL is basically giving the current tenants the opportunity to stay with the change instead of kicking them out. If they refuse and decide to move out that's on them not him.
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Old 11-05-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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So a home owner can do exactly anything he wants. Period? He can put anything on the lease and either sign it or leave? There have to be some kind of laws, or at least ethics according to real estate organizations.
How is changing lease terms unethical or illegal?
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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Its a new lease. He can change whatever he wants. You sound pretty entitled thinking that your daughter should dictate the rules on the new lease. If she wants that privilege, she needs to buy a house and pay the bills.

Honest to god, its unreal the entitlement nowadays.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Just south of Denver since 1989
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The landlord is free to change future iterations of the lease. Your daughter is fee to accept or reject the terms of the new lease.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Different rooms leased at different times, different years even, different leases. LL leases by room, advertised that way on websites.

True what parentologist said: if they rent together rather than separately, should get a better deal. It is currently 3 x $650 + 1 x $750, plus one person pays fee for garage
Yeah right now it seems the LL is responsible as all the leases are separate for each tenant. It may not be beneficial to the tenants to have one lease for all tenants together.
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Different rooms leased at different times, different years even, different leases. LL leases by room, advertised that way on websites.

True what parentologist said: if they rent together rather than separately, should get a better deal. It is currently 3 x $650 + 1 x $750, plus one person pays fee for garage
Yeah right now it seems the LL is responsible as all the leases are separate for each tenant. It may not be beneficial to the tenants to have one lease for all tenants together.

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As long as he is changing the terms as leases end, and new ones begin, he can do whatever he wants.Your daughter has no rights to stay under the current terms beyond the actual lease dates. She should never have expectations that the lease, as is, will always be offered for extension.
Pretty much this^^^^?Yes he can write a lease showing the new terms as long as all the tenants agree to the changes and as long as he give gives enough notice that he wants a “all tenants under one lease” agreement but the tenants can say no thank you give notice and move out.



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So a home owner can do exactly anything he wants. Period? He can put anything on the lease and either sign it or leave? There have to be some kind of laws, or at least ethics according to real estate organizations.
Well......no......he can’t do “whatever he wants”. He can’t go against what the state law says. Sorry but this isn’t a ethics issue or breaking any laws. Just because you don’t like the terms doesn’t mean it’s unethical. The LL isn’t doing anything illegal. They are presenting a new lease agreement at the end of the old agreement. The tenants aren’t forced to accept it.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:50 PM
 
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Different rooms leased at different times, different years even, different leases. LL leases by room, advertised that way on websites.

True what parentologist said: if they rent together rather than separately, should get a better deal. It is currently 3 x $650 + 1 x $750, plus one person pays fee for garage
Is your daughter in college by any chance?

What's the going rate for a single in a "rooming house" in Denver? Was it/is a licensed "rooming house"?

In the city my rentals are in you have to have a license to rent out rooms.
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