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Originally Posted by Kim in FL
Nuisance noise is that noise that's defined in your lease, community rules or local noise ordnance. That means, loud parties after the 'quiet hour' your complex has, boom music, fighting like cats and dogs, playing dance party USA until 0300...those are nuisance noises.
You can't call the police or file a complaint with your landlord because you can hear your neighbor flush their toilet or run their shower. The landlord can't do anything about that 'noise'. Nor can they do anything about hearing doors open and shut, chairs scraping across the floor. The noises are due to the construction of the building and not your neighbor being a jackass.
You're very lucky your landlord responded to your 'noise complaint' about your neighbor. I think the only they responded is because so many people complained...Id be curious as to what he's going up there myself. As for the thumping bass girl, have you spoke with her or your landlord? That is nuisance noise and they should respond to that complaint
I got lambasted for saying this, but it's true. You, (not you personally, a generic you) can't move into a multi level, multi family living situation and expect total silence. It's not going to happen. Once you get that thru your head, you should be good. Some noise is expected...daily living. Some noise is not....nuisance noise.
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Okay, Kim ..I know you are informed, so I will ask you. But first let me clarify. I have a couple above me I have had to cope with, I will address later. The "eviction guy" is up and over the one next-door. I don't hear him, but the girl living under
him (who was unpleasant when I asked her if she could turn her music down) is the one complaining about him. I don't know what she hears, but she is the 3rd of those who complained about
him. It's weird, someone else had said that he would "drag his mattress across the floor...putting it away and taking out". I don't get it, because apparently, he has
no furniture and he could have plenty of room to leave a bed out..
I don't know how one lives that way.. and he IS an oddball. His is a single unit and they are VERY large and have seen others
set them up extremely well and beautifully. (I am getting an education regarding odd personalities, in my later years).
I have said this - having been in this unit for almost 18 years, there have been only
three neighbors out of
twelve here who have been strangely disturbing - the others have apparently been very respectful and considerate, in the same unit. I would barely hear them, though aware they were home. I am not concerned about
regular living sounds..normal stuff.. it is the
unusual and excessive that is so bothersome, which is what others address, too. That is why I say, it comes down to the tenant. The
noise I deal with is definitely odd and hasn't been witnessed by management. (I have lived in apartments since the '70's and honestly never used to deal with this...and nobody has complained about me, either). The first "bad neighbor" experience was elsewhere in 1994, when a man was raging and abusing his wife and daughter. I moved.
So, I don't know why, but this man upstairs spends ALL of his time in this
one area - dining, and I think he is assembling items, using tools. It can sound like bowling balls dropping and rolling, bangs, thuds..clunking, slammimg, screeching. It is not just random, but
daily, whenever he's home and awake. Again, since the flooring in recent years was changed to linoleum, it makes it worse.
This spot is also
11 feet from where my bed is located, in the bedroom. Now, this to me is NOT "normal, living sounds". If someone doing this lived downstairs, nobody would be hearing them.
The wife too - she is hyperactive. I have spoken to her twice, once last year and once more recently, as we were passing. (After the first time, finding there was no change and clearly disrespect, I let the manager address it). Both times she has acted very innocent and open and I see why the manager just believes her. I had asked about placing felt pads under the chair legs, which she said "they did", (but I wonder why there is still screeching? I think she likely meant they used plastic sliders, which on linoleum would make a screeching sound, and better for carpet). She said she had thought of putting a rug down on that area, but that was two weeks ago... no change yet. The wife also brought up the pat excuse of it being due to "the building", yet others were not bothersome. Yesterday, I listened to this usual Sh__ for about 5 hours, before it stopped. There will be more today. I have been sleep deprived and have gotten into a weird schedule. It has hit me, that in recent years, I am now dealing with younger tenants with a different mentality.. kind of a "who cares", I'll do whatever I want" attitude. I feel this is just foreign to me. There was only one other guy who was so obnoxious, causing repeated crashes and THUDS, for whatever reason, daily, in fact, I almost feel like he never left. By the way, that guy was the
only one out of twelve, who always slammed that front door. Nobody needs to do that. It is due to personality and some
are being jackasses. So, how is one supposed to handle all of this?
Yes, the manager is responsive, she's good, but here's the thing: When she speaks to the wife upstairs (a youngish Hispanic couple), the tenant says "we're just doing normal things" (In
their minds, apparently). So, the manager accepts that (and it is unlike the case nextdoor, where there have been
three tenants having witnessed the same crap in the unit above
them, creating credibility. And no, I had not mentioned "Base Girl", due to having already discussed my upstairs neighbors. I thought if I saw the Manager outside when this is occurs, I would have her listen to the base sounds. (I think it's funny how the girl complains about HER upstairs neighbor, but won't turn her music down).
The thing is, those venting are just expressing frustraton, because it feels there is no escape. Part of it is that I have felt content here and now having to focus upon other possibilities, though require a Low-income, possibly Senior place (and detest those "high rise", amenities buildings). There are prerequisites besides and it feels monumental. It is difficult finding those having a wait-list available, which I have checked into over the years. (It's not like in the past when I would freely look at apartments). There are limited listings having a few allowable low-income units per building, having researched online - some being newer buildings with lovely photos, very inviting... yet I've read horrible reviews, due to how they're run and what some tenants do. It sounded so crazy.
It made this place seem like heaven. We don't experience the problems described in other properties. (You can move, and end up with the same or worse conditions and at this stage in my life, I don't know how much I can handle). Of course, If I actually had an option, I would want a quiet one-story place, like a duplex with a good neighbor next door.
Okay, I spent a lot of time on this and didn't mean to - but I am somewhat stressed - please bear with me.
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Let's see... where did I put that magic wand? (Similar to when something expensive breaks and another asks "Why don't you get a new one?") 
