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Old 12-14-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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I have been looking to move into a bad ass apartment all last week. Everything was ok (no evictions), but the fact they couldn't get any rental history information.

Well, finally I was able to get ahold of my former landlord through email. Now, before I go onto to make her seem like a complete *****...there was some issues torward the last couple months of my 2nd lease term. I stayed in total from March 2007 to May 2008. The apartment was located in Miami.

Now, if anyone knows about the economy in Florida back then...anyone who was out of work was ****ed! There were no jobs, no one wanted to hire. Alot of people in all positions were getting laid-off. Moral of the story: I went from November 2007 to the day I left in June living on payday loans, school loans and grants and unemployment checks.

It wasn't until about April that I began to run out of my unemployment, all my loans and grants and couldn't pay her. This is after a year of leasing her 'garage'.

I ended up having to leave without my deposit. We agreed I owed nothing if the deposit (equal to the month's rent) was kept. It was a written agreement. Fast forward to today, she replies with a nasty email saying when I left we were on bad terms and to find my references elsewhere. She also says that since I called the police ( because she was threatening to lock all my stuff in the apartment).

Now I have to pay an additional $200 to move into this place and due to staying in hotels ALLL week Im tapped. Im over 4 hours away from my brothers place where I've been living and am practically homeless with no where to go until I come across additonal money from work (Im self-employed). I hate to grave dig any contact with my landlord, but I think what she is doing is nasty as I was a very good tenant for a year, and left the place sparkling clean.

It just seems like she is only looking at those last couple of bad months instead of all the good months that I was paying on time, always clean and quiet, never damaged nothing. And then at the end when I fall into a rough situation I cant even get a reference? What a complete *****!

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Old 12-14-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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I feel your pain, but the whole situation sounds pretty reasonable to me. I doubt that the new LL can find no rental history, more likely they have run a credit check and have found bad rental history.

No LL is required to provide any reference at all (and truthfully, that's why many LL's only obtain written reports, rather than verbal references), the fact that this one claims bad terms seems accurate. She may have accepted your deposit in lieu of rent as the only possible outcome, but that doesn't mean she has to call it a fair or good solution. The new LL is offering fair terms. Most LLs would just turn you down. This one is offering to let you move in in exchange for more security for them.

At this point perhaps 'bad ass' is too lofty a goal for you. Perhaps you should aim for a solid roof over your head, and set out for bad ass next year. I sympathize because this situation isn't your fault and there was nothing you could do differently that would have been better, most likely. But that doesn't obligate a businessperson--the LL--to take risks they aren't comfortable with. Unfortunately even when circumstances are beyond our control, we have to do the adult thing and accept them as our burden.
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Actions have consequences...

(1) No Bad Credit (2) Verifiable Income of 3 x the rent (3) Two References... is very common in my area.

Having a co-signer in good standing can overcome some deficiencies...

You might want to explore the co-signer route...

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Old 12-14-2009, 06:30 PM
 
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y'all are a bit confused...Lets not misinterpret my story!

Let me break it down, sweeties. They did a credit check. No evictions and no bad rental history ( I ordered my credit report last month).

Also, this 'bad ass apartment' is also offering super cheap move in rates. Its a $60 move in for a 1 bedroom with a brand new washer dryer, the 3rd floor and a fireplace. 60 dollars and less than 500 a month!

compare that to if I went for the 'roof over my head'. They all wanted full months rent upfront, something that i just dont have (i've been here for 2 and a half weeks and spent over $850 in hotels) Thats more than I'd be approved for in rent.

Dont think Im a villian. She may not be required to give the apartments my rental history...but she comes off as a total *****. I gave her over $6,500 during the time I was there. I missed 2 months, plus she kept deposit of $500.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:46 PM
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Man that stinks. Had you known that she was going to be unreasonable while you pinched pennies to pay the rent, it might have worked out better to just leave and let her whine for a good reason.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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y'all are a bit confused...Lets not misinterpret my story!

Let me break it down, sweeties. They did a credit check. No evictions and no bad rental history ( I ordered my credit report last month).

Also, this 'bad ass apartment' is also offering super cheap move in rates. Its a $60 move in for a 1 bedroom with a brand new washer dryer, the 3rd floor and a fireplace. 60 dollars and less than 500 a month!

compare that to if I went for the 'roof over my head'. They all wanted full months rent upfront, something that i just dont have (i've been here for 2 and a half weeks and spent over $850 in hotels) Thats more than I'd be approved for in rent.

Dont think Im a villian. She may not be required to give the apartments my rental history...but she comes off as a total *****. I gave her over $6,500 during the time I was there. I missed 2 months, plus she kept deposit of $500.
So... what are you going to do?

Roommate, Co-Signer, ask that an exception be made... are options that come to mind...

What would they do if this was your first time renting? You would be in the same position.

Maybe an alternate method would work... Gather your rent receipts and offer that... might help.

There isn't a Landlord that wants a vacant unit unless the perceived risk is unacceptable.

Worst Case is you keep looking.
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Old 12-14-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Also, this 'bad ass apartment' is also offering super cheap move in rates. Its a $60 move in for a 1 bedroom with a brand new washer dryer, the 3rd floor and a fireplace. 60 dollars and less than 500 a month!
Super cheap move in rates are offered to people with excellent credit and references, just like interest rates. When you don't have that, you have to put more earnest money down. It's the way it works.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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Gather your rent receipts and offer that... might help.
see, when i was 19 and 20 renting my 1st place, I diligently kept every receipt. But when I moved out I threw away (or misplaced) all of those receipts.

when i moved in, she didnt ask for rental history; just the $1,000. I didnt even realize rental history determines the amount of deposit til i read on application, but i was confident that my previous landlord would not hold what hapened against me forever.

At this point I dont know what to do. I already spent 2 days in the hospital here recovering from a flu turned migrane headache, body aches, and exhaustion. Im staying with an acquientence at the moment. But without getting enough rest, I cant get over this!

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Man that stinks. Had you known that she was going to be unreasonable while you pinched pennies to pay the rent, it might have worked out better to just leave and let her whine for a good reason.
I know...which is basically what I did. And since I lived on the property, she was knocking on my door almost daily torwards the last couple weeks. Then the threats of locking my stuff inside (her word choice) was what made me contact authorites. Then I moved out the very next day.

It was just a bad situation, but I couldn't come up with the money. The bad part is I owed so much in payday loans, that I couldn't afford to pay them back, so I probably wont ever be approved for one. But since then I've found other ways to get cash when I need it, I wont hesistate to sell my ass!

By the way, YOU ARE SO CUTE I just moved from DFW
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:04 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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She may not be required to give the apartments my rental history...but she comes off as a total *****. I gave her over $6,500 during the time I was there. I missed 2 months, plus she kept deposit of $500.
It sounds to me that your former LL was more than fair in keeping your deposit when you had failed to pay two months rent. She was still out of money ($500 according to your own calculations) but agreed to suck it up. LLs aren't interested in their tenants' personal problems when it comes to the rent. They're not philanthropic institutions, they're business people.

No LL is required to give a reference and in the circumstances you describe I wouldn't either. Hope it all works out for you.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Clermont Fl
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It sounds to me that your former LL was more than fair in keeping your deposit when you had failed to pay two months rent. She was still out of money ($500 according to your own calculations) but agreed to suck it up. LLs aren't interested in their tenants' personal problems when it comes to the rent. They're not philanthropic institutions, they're business people.

No LL is required to give a reference and in the circumstances you describe I wouldn't either. Hope it all works out for you.
Agree why not give your old landlord the $500 dollars that might help it would for me
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