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I would need about 15 kids to qualify for this place but with student loans etc I only want to pay 1500 a month or less. So I will probably end up renting this place below.
But guess what? This place is right next door to the other place, so my six figures gets me the same neighborhood as the walmart greeter except they get more square footage stainless appliances and granite countertops. Wow, that masters degree is paying off.
Section 8 housing is fine by me. The poor need that. The working class does not deserve luxury apartments better than the "middle" class. This is socialism. There are plenty of acceptable places for them, and if they want more, work hard, study, etc.
How much is the rent at the low income place?
You would not want to live there anyway, I'd guess. They may be "luxury" but it probably isn't a pleasant place to live, ya know? I'd suspect there are people cramming a bunch of kids in those places and it's probably noisy and will end up less than luxurious at some point.
Is there somewhere else you could rent other than right next to that complex? My experience is always trouble with subsidized housing, even the nicer looking ones, and I'd be looking for a neighborhood with more similar income housing.
Get over yourself. NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. If it really bothers you, go work as a greeter in a WalMart and see how great it is! Many times builders and developers have to promise x# of units to get their plans approved.
I don't like how rent controls can cause shortages and supply scarcity, but outside of a few areas(California and NYC come to mind), this doesn't really happen (even in nice, new buildings that have to reserve a few units for Sec. 8, etc...)
Seriously, if being poor were so freaking great, there would be a lot more people doing it. I get some people want to bump along sucking out of the system, but really, working for your money is a lot better and most Americans recognize this.
No, more people are choosing to be "poor", as in preferring to work part time or non-skilled jobs rather than train for a trade or vocational career. I was told this by some young adults (males). They plan to make just enough to qualify for the ever increasing subsidies and bennies which end up giving them the same or better lifestyle as if they had a skilled labor career. They don't have to work very hard but the government, individuals, and increasingly business are throwing ever more assistance to the "working poor" to keep them there. It keeps them as a dependent class and lazy people don't mind being that. And it's almost just good sense.?
The people living at the low income luxury apartments are not going to better themselves only to get priced out of their luxury penthouse and have to move across the way to the lesser apartments that the higher income people pay full price for. It's crazily backwards. Some people would have to move to completely bad areas if they make even a little too much.
You work your way up in life or the whole system falls apart, no point in working your way down, as you earn more money.
You would not want to live there anyway, I'd guess. They may be "luxury" but it probably isn't a pleasant place to live, ya know? I'd suspect there are people cramming a bunch of kids in those places and it's probably noisy and will end up less than luxurious at some point.
Is there somewhere else you could rent other than right next to that complex? My experience is always trouble with subsidized housing, even the nicer looking ones, and I'd be looking for a neighborhood with more similar income housing.
1220 for a 2b/2ba. What I don't understand is how families making that little can even afford this place. When I made that little I rented an old lady's attic apartment for 375.
This town has very low crime, great schools, and walkable. Thought it was great until I saw the subsidized housing place. I am sure plenty of the residents will be fine, but with high rent and low incomes how will many can afford it without illegitimate activities.
Get over yourself. NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. If it really bothers you, go work as a greeter in a WalMart and see how great it is! Many times builders and developers have to promise x# of units to get their plans approved.
I don't like how rent controls can cause shortages and supply scarcity, but outside of a few areas(California and NYC come to mind), this doesn't really happen (even in nice, new buildings that have to reserve a few units for Sec. 8, etc...)
Seriously, if being poor were so freaking great, there would be a lot more people doing it. I get some people want to bump along sucking out of the system, but really, working for your money is a lot better and most Americans recognize this.
Exactly no one owes me anything. Why does the working class get something owed to them in the form of better housing with luxury features? Those features aren't even available in most apartments for any price.
Not all the units are income restricted so how about applying for one that has no income restrictions?
Without knowing the details of why the income restriction was set up, this could be nothing but a giveback from the developer in order to build excess luxuary rentals someplace else. Maybe the developer was a slumlord who offered to build it to stay out of jail for severe building code or landlord tenant law violations. Maybe there were just so few afforable rentals it the area that hard working people (such as new teachers, etc) could not get rentals and this is an attempt to provide affordable units. In some cases the developer's see a need and would rather build with income restricted units incorporated within the complex.
I bet its harder for a person with lower income to get a decent rental and probably must easier for a person making good money to get a decent place. So, I have to wonder if your just upset because them poor folks are living in a decent place equal to what you are living in.
1220 for a 2b/2ba. What I don't understand is how families making that little can even afford this place. When I made that little I rented an old lady's attic apartment for 375.
This town has very low crime, great schools, and walkable. Thought it was great until I saw the subsidized housing place. I am sure plenty of the residents will be fine, but with high rent and low incomes how will many can afford it without illegitimate activities.
I don't believe they actually pay 1220, depending on their income, but a percentage of that.
YOU would pay 1220 if they'd let you in, subsidizing them.
Yeah when I made less, I lived with roommates in a little place, had incentive to work my way up which is the nature of things.
I don't believe they actually pay 1220, depending on their income, but a percentage of that.
YOU would pay 1220 if they'd let you in, subsidizing them.
Yeah when I made less, I lived with roommates in a little place, had incentive to work my way up which is the nature of things.
No, you're wrong. I like how everyone just happily ignores my previous post which explained how these things work. Subsidized housing are rentals that are at a lower rental rate than similar units in the area. So 1220 for a 2bd/2ba IS what the tenant with an income restriction would pay. Someone else would pay more than that, probably somewhere around $1400. In order to qualify for subsidized housing you have to make less than 30% of the median income of the area. So if you live in a rich area, that income restriction is going to be higher. Meaning, people who DO work and probably DON'T get welfare but don't make quite enough to be over the income restrictions will rent those units. They don't get free rent and unless utilities are included in rent, they have to pay those too. Subsidized housing and Section 8 are not the same thing. Section 8 is when the government gives you X amount of money towards rent and it is based on the average price of rentals in the area. So if you get $500/month from Section 8 but live somewhere that costs $800/month, you still have to pay the $300. People are not getting a free ride in luxury apartments. They're getting the EXACT same amount of government money regardless of where they decide to rent and they have every right to live wherever they want as long as section 8 is accepted (and it isn't everywhere). Just because they are poor does not mean they should be forced to live in sub-par conditions nor does it mean that they are trashy people.
The young men who told another poster this were probably what, 18 or 19? I'm guessing young and without a family to support. When you have a family to support, being poor isn't fun. I mean if you guys think it's so great, why don't you quit your job and go work at McDonald's? You have NO money for anything that isn't deemed as absolutely necessary. If it gives you an idea, in the state of Ohio, with a family of 3 you have to make LESS than $2100 a month GROSS (meaning before taxes) to qualify for anything and the closer you are to that $2100, the less you will get. At anywhere near $2100, you're not going to get Section 8 or cash assistance either. In fact, to get cash you have to make less than $500 a month gross and you won't get more than a few hundred dollars PLUS they make you participate in a work program.
Do some people use the system? Yes, some people do and shame on those people. But the majority of people do not abuse the system and actually want to better themselves, work hard, and attempt to make their quality of life better. Also, I think someone who is proud of abusing the system is more likely to brag about it to people. A lot of people are embarrassed to be on welfare, myself included, and those people don't go around bragging about how they're poor and need help.
No, you're wrong. I like how everyone just happily ignores my previous post which explained how these things work. Subsidized housing are rentals that are at a lower rental rate than similar units in the area. So 1220 for a 2bd/2ba IS what the tenant with an income restriction would pay. Someone else would pay more than that, probably somewhere around $1400. In order to qualify for subsidized housing you have to make less than 30% of the median income of the area. .
City Center at Deer Creek Apartments is a Section 42 tax credit property. Residents whose income falls below 60% of the median income of Waukesha County may qualify for lower rent prices.
The income restrictions at that place are too low for qualified renters to afford 1200+, the numbers don't work.
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