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Old 06-25-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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I've got a 2004 Saturn Ion with 100,000 miles, and the pipe piece where the catalytic converter is became disconnected on the front end. It looks like Part 2 from the diagram on this site: 20889269 CATALYTIC CONVERTER for 2004 Saturn Ion

The converter itself is still attached to the piping on each side, but the pipe is disconnected from the rest of the system on the front end of the car. I had it taken in to Midas, and they said that I would need to get a new converter piece priced at 965.95 for the part (plus 2 gaskets at $9 each) and 1,158 total for part/labor/tax. Does this sound like a normal price?

I appreciate anyone's help!!
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Get away from damned chain garages such as Midas. Probably a good indy exhaust shop can just do a welding repair and you can go with that.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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That seems cheap to me.

We had a "temporary" bypass pipe welded in when our cats went out in our van. It cost $150. New Cats $2200.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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How feasible is a welding job like that? I obviously don't need it to last for too long because the car is getting up there in age, but is it something that will last for 10,000-15,000 more miles?
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Is it the massive Stainless Steel exhaust system and Hi-Flow Cats on the Saturn Ion Redline we are talking about?
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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I've actually heard about stealing catalytic converters is becoming increasingly common- especially if you have a high clearance vehicle. Sucks they are so expensive to replace- I would be pissed!
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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How feasible is a welding job like that? I obviously don't need it to last for too long because the car is getting up there in age, but is it something that will last for 10,000-15,000 more miles?
Depends on the skill of the welder, although with a good wire-feed type it's not that hard to run a good bead.

Are you in rust country or not? And, that ain't no old car, mate. My 82 Scirocco, THAT'S an old car. It has had the same exhaust system since I bought it around 10 years and 200K miles ago. The muffler split, the particular muffler the PO put on it has a steel frame of sorts and an aluminum "can" around it, the aluminum split due to metal fatigue, I guess, so I put a thicker aluminum plate over it and put some sheet metal screws through that into the steel frame, it's still a bit louder than stock but good enough till I get 'round to replacing the muffler outright...
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Also might want to see if you can get a 05-07 Cobalt SS/SC since they used the same 2.0 supercharged ecotec LSJ Motor.

The LSJ is a supercharged version of the LK9 Ecotec 2.0 L— 1,998 cc (121.9 cu in)— with an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger and air-to-liquid intercooler. It is rated at 205 hp (153 kW) at 5600 rpm and 200 lb·ft (271 N·m) at 4400 rpm with a compression ratio of 9.5:1 and a 6500 rpm redline. With the end of the Chevy Cobalt S/C SS and Saturn Ion Red Line, the LSJ was discontinued after 2007.

The LSJ was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2006.

In production from 2004 through the 2007 Model Year, Saturn produced the Red Line Sport Compact This engine/powertrain combination is also shared with the Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged Edition, which did not start production until the 2005 model year. The Ion Red Line features most interior features from the standard Ion Coupe, including its rear suicide doors, to allow accessibility to the rear seat.

The Ion Red Line is an overlooked GM performance car, as the Saturn brand was not marketed as selling high-performance vehicles. The Red Line claims a 0-60 mph time of 6.0 seconds, and a 1/4 mile time of 14.6 seconds. GM Performance re-tuned the Spring and bushing rates, and reduced the ride height by about 10 mm, and added larger 4-wheel disc brakes. The car was also equipped with 17-inch forged alloy wheels and Dunlop Sport SP9000 215/45 tires, thicker performance sway bars, re-valved shock absorbers, and Recaro racing seats.

The larger disc brakes made the Red Line capable of decelerating from 70 mph in 164 ft., what John Phillips of Car and Driver Magazine described as "Porsche territory". Also included was a 2.25 inch exhaust system with a Chrome-tip pipe that allowed for a more aggressive exhaust note from the tailpipe and GM's OnStar System. The Ion Red Line was introduced with a base price of $20,950.

Introduced for the 2005 model year was the optional Competition Package. Included in the Competition Package were 17" Gunmetal Painted Alloy Rims, Ladder Tachometer w/ shift lights, a Limited Slip Differential, and Optional Projector-beam Fog Lamps.


In mid-2006, GM released two Engine Kit upgrades for both the Ion Red Line and the Cobalt SS. The Stage 1 Kit retailed for around $500 USD, and included higher-flow fuel injectors and a recalibration to the ECU to increase the Horsepower by 31 hp to 236 hp and 205 lb·ft. of torque, up from the stock 205 hp and 200 lb·ft. The Stage 2 Kit retailed for around $750 and opens up the middle of the power curve to more power than the Stage 1 Kit alone. In addition to everything that the Stage 1 Kit comes with, the Stage 2 Kit includes a smaller drive belt and pulley for the supercharger, bringing the engine up to 241 hp and 218 lb·ft. of torque. GM did release a Stage 1 to Stage 2 Upgrade kit that retailed for $400. This Upgrade Kit is for a Red Line with the Stage 1 kit already installed. This Upgrade Kit adds the Stage 2 elements and increases the horsepower from 236 hp to 241 hp.


On October 17, 2003 at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, the Saturn Ion Red Line, piloted by the GM Performance Division's "Saturn Land Speed Record Project" set a new land-speed record in the "G/Blown Fuel Altered" Class at 212.684 mph. This exceeded the previous record holder of 183.086 mph that was set in 2001
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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Buy the cat online and then take it to a shop to install and save a lot of money. Or, install it yourself and save even more.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Don't walk. RUN away from chain stores like Midas!

That part is $350-$500 at any auto parts store - not the nearly $1,000 they want to charge you.
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