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Old 06-05-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"Federal employees who are eligible to retire could switch instead to a hybrid in which they would continue working half-time while also receiving a partial annuity, under rules to be published Wednesday. Rules proposed by the Office of Personnel Management would carry out “phased retirement” authority enacted nearly a year ago but still not available. The rules provide for a 60-day comment period."

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‘Phased retirement’ policy for federal workers unveiled

No comment except I'm aways suspicious when they want to change something supposedly to benefit workers.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: pacific northwest
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Great idea for Government workers who want to work part-time. Don't see any downside to this.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Great idea for Government workers who want to work part-time. Don't see any downside to this.
Shouldn't be any downside as you say. I am wondering how it would all play out in the media, blogs, internet, forums, etc when you consider:

Many people don't like and resent federal employees and their salaries/benefits
Many people don't like pensions period
Many people don't like to pay taxes for someone else's salary and benefits. The not on my dime concept.

Given the above people and the above forums you have to wonder how many downsides will magically appear when and if it actually started to move forward with possible implementation.

Imagine your neighbor working part time and getting part of their pension at the same time and how folks would react to that? Sorta like retire/rehire except structured differently. Shouldn't be a problem but in this era a lot that shouldn't becomes.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: pacific northwest
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Lots of people retire from one job in the private sector; draw their pension and then work part-time at another job. What's the difference? Oh, yea, they don't work for the Government.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: in the miseries
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Shouldn't be any downside as you say. I am wondering how it would all play out in the media, blogs, internet, forums, etc when you consider:

Many people don't like and resent federal employees and their salaries/benefits
Many people don't like pensions period
Many people don't like to pay taxes for someone else's salary and benefits. The not on my dime concept.

Given the above people and the above forums you have to wonder how many downsides will magically appear when and if it actually started to move forward with possible implementation.

Imagine your neighbor working part time and getting part of their pension at the same time and how folks would react to that? Sorta like retire/rehire except structured differently. Shouldn't be a problem but in this era a lot that shouldn't becomes.
I agree with you, I wouldn't like it either
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Shouldn't be any downside as you say. I am wondering how it would all play out in the media, blogs, internet, forums, etc when you consider:

Many people don't like and resent federal employees and their salaries/benefits
Many people don't like pensions period
Many people don't like to pay taxes for someone else's salary and benefits. The not on my dime concept.

Given the above people and the above forums you have to wonder how many downsides will magically appear when and if it actually started to move forward with possible implementation.

Imagine your neighbor working part time and getting part of their pension at the same time and how folks would react to that? Sorta like retire/rehire except structured differently. Shouldn't be a problem but in this era a lot that shouldn't becomes.
It would p*** me off. There are many younger workers who need those jobs.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Great idea for Government workers who want to work part-time. Don't see any downside to this.
It's also a good idea for less senior staff who would be tasked with assuming the duties of the person retiring. According to the article:

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The main purpose of phased retirement is to enhance mentoring and training of the employees who will be filling the positions of more experienced employees who are preparing for full retirement. It is intended to encourage experienced employees to remain, in at least a part-time capacity, while less experienced employees are preparing to assume the duties of the employees who are planning to retire.
And of course, phased retirement for federal employees has the added bonus of pissing off those who hate federal employees anyway. Sounds like a win-win to me!
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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It would p*** me off. There are many younger workers who need those jobs.
To me it depends on the job. Not all of us "seniors" are brain dead and should be replaced by younger workers. In many cases, retired workers of long experience are brought back on-board part-time because they have two thing younger workers lack. Those "things" are historical perspective and institutional memory; both of which pre-date electronic data bases. Those are invaluable in certain venues and occupations.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Tennessee at last!
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A downside to doing it is that part time workers, which one would become under this arrangement, are out the door before full time employees in a RIF situation.

My agency would not offer this unless they were desperate with meeting budget...and at risk of a RIF.
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