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Old 02-28-2015, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Interesting, I suspected that much about Northwestern SC, where we traveled a few summers back (Greenville, Spartanburg, Landrum).

Why is it Southerners don't drive in a little bit of snow?
Because it's usually not snow but "black ice" that we have on the roads.


Black ice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Because it's usually not snow but "black ice" that we have on the roads.


Black ice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Living in the south for 18 years, it's not the black ice the Southerners fear, it's the fact they have an overwhelming desire to speed up, thinking the faster they spin the wheels on the 3-4 inch snow cover the faster they will go....I saw it every winter. Yes the black ice can be bad, but that's anywhere , bridges freeze faster than the roadway up north too. They don't have plows, they us road graders. What they do have is spreaders , broadcasting " chat" on the roadway. It's a mix of salt and coal slag, tailings, spent smelter crud, which works quite well on black ice.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Lubbock Tx, which is at 3500 ft. elevation so that makes summers and winters cooler than typical in the south. Summers are usually hot in the day, but it cools off in the evening, because of our low humidity so that you can do stuff outside. Mornings also are pleasant. Doesn't really get hot till lunch time.

Winters are usually quite cool. Usually it goes below freezing at night, and warms up well above freezing during the day. But the last few years, winters have been colder. It used to be we'd get some snow a few days in winter and then it would melt in a day or two. Last few years its been colder, and snow stays around longer. We had one winter a few years ago when the snow persisted for several weeks before it was all gone.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Lubbock Tx, which is at 3500 ft. elevation so that makes summers and winters cooler than typical in the south. Summers are usually hot in the day, but it cools off in the evening, because of our low humidity so that you can do stuff outside. Mornings also are pleasant. Doesn't really get hot till lunch time.

Winters are usually quite cool. Usually it goes below freezing at night, and warms up well above freezing during the day. But the last few years, winters have been colder. It used to be we'd get some snow a few days in winter and then it would melt in a day or two. Last few years its been colder, and snow stays around longer. We had one winter a few years ago when the snow persisted for several weeks before it was all gone.
I read this morning that something like 1000 flights from Dallas have been cancelled due to ice. I never associated Texas and the Southwest with those kinds of conditions, and wonder if it's unusual or becoming more the norm there.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Because it's usually not snow but "black ice" that we have on the roads.


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Thanks for clarifying that. We have so many plows and salt/sand spreaders operating on our highways and so much traffic melting the ice that we don't tend to get that as a regular thing.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:53 AM
 
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Yep, even the Los Angeles Times had an article about all the snow in Boston. It sounded grim.
The West Coast and South should brace for the migration of Bostonians. There was an article about this in the Globe, but I couldn't access the online text because I'm not a subscriber. I wonder, if that proves to be true, whether new real estate and rental demand will drive prices up in the "good winter" areas of the country.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:11 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Why is it Southerners don't drive in a little bit of snow?
As a relocated Yankee I can answer that. Many cars sold in the South have summer only tires (both our cars do) which are great on dry roads and OK in the rain. They are absolutely terrible in cold weather and in snow you could not move at all.
Most cars up North have all weather tires of even snows in winter for those who know the value of good snow tires.
I don't leave the house if there is even a hint of snow. I never take trips back home to NJ in the winter.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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As a relocated Yankee I can answer that. Many cars sold in the South have summer only tires (both our cars do) which are great on dry roads and OK in the rain. They are absolutely terrible in cold weather and in snow you could not move at all.
Most cars up North have all weather tires of even snows in winter for those who know the value of good snow tires.
I don't leave the house if there is even a hint of snow. I never take trips back home to NJ in the winter.
The problems are more driver than the tires . Hint: your fear leaving the house ? I just purchased a new car, stock tires were M&S which have now become regular practice on about all cars. The exception is high speed tires like you find on high dollar exotic cars. From the tire industry, " all season tires" are now MS tires, witch is a good thing.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:55 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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The problems are more driver than the tires . Hint: your fear leaving the house ? I just purchased a new car, stock tires were M&S which have now become regular practice on about all cars. The exception is high speed tires like you find on high dollar exotic cars. From the tire industry, " all season tires" are now MS tires, witch is a good thing.
Sorry but I don't have a fear of driving on Ice or snow. 40 years of winter driving in NJ with zero crashes.
I don't have a need to drive on ice or snow

What you call fear I call common sense you don't go driving in the ice and snow unless you absolutely have to. Like your job. Just going for a drive in the snow is absolutely stupid.


BTW I have been a performance driving instructor (since retired) for 15 years. So I am a better driver than the majority.

High dollar exocits, you mean like Mustangs, Camaros that come with summer tires.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: delaware
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in central delaware, we are often on the "border" for snow or mixed precip. or rain. we have had a number of dire forecasts( love the weather industry) this winter, and as of now, none materialized into what was predicted. we've had about 7-8 inches of snow total. there is currently less than an inch of snow on grassy areas, and forecast today is for light snow-a.m.- less than an inch, and sleet changing to rain this afternoon and evening. high near 40 tomorrow. winter has been colder than usual, although it does remind me of a few baltimore winters in the late 1970s, with much colder temps than normal. i've been here 9 years and have had a few snowless winters, one 20 inch snow winter, and the rest 5-10 inches total for the winter. ice has never been a major problem; i hear more about black ice farther north into pa. and n.j. i have someone who clears the snow for me if i need it, and i've never had to call him yet this winter. the most shoveling i do myself is a 4 in. total. it's been snowing lightly for an hour now and i don't see any coverage except grass.

the plus for many people about this area, is , i think, the usually extended springs and falls. i consider winter here from mid dec. to early march, although i've seen warm-55-60 degree feb. days and very cold early dec. days. as i've stated here before, i don't think any"traditional " weather can be counted on for an any region in the future. we are in a time of climate change and new normals are evolving.

catsy girl
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