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'd also like to know the answer to this question. I mean, I spent 4 1/2 years waiting to get approved for disability and in that time, without being able to work, I lived on $200 a month of state disability and $197 worth of food stamps. So come on, Petch, could you do that and if you think $6000 a year is still too much money to qualify for an EBT card, then what in your opinion is not enough?
I think Petch would believe people who make $1200, $1500, $2000 or more a month should qualify for benefits.
i doubt that and i never said such a thing . i said many low income people actually live on that low of an income . in many areas they can actually do better than some higher income earners because of things they may get that make a big difference in cash flow like medicaid for health insurance , tax credits , snap , etc . .
like i said it takes 250k in savings to generate enough to pay our healthcare insurance .
a retired couple on medicaid needs 250k less in savings than someone who qualifies for no subsidy . that is just a fact but it does not mean that person on medicaid is living a better life . . it just means they don't need as much saved to reach the same starting point after a major expense like healthcare is calculated . .
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i doubt that and i never said such a thing . i said many low income people actually live on that low of an income . in many areas they can actually do better than some higher income earners because of things they may get that make a big difference in cash flow like medicaid for health insurance , tax credits , snap , etc . .
like i said it takes 250k in savings to generate enough to pay our healthcare insurance .
a retired couple on medicaid needs 250k less in savings than someone who qualifies for no subsidy . that is just a fact but it does not mean that person on medicaid is living a better life . . it just means they don't need as much saved to reach the same starting point after a major expense like healthcare is calculated . .
No, no, no. A person with $250k in assets is not eating food bank food. You seem to be fixated on healthcare. Free Medicaid isn't the same as having the freedom and options of private insurance. Private insurance was never cheap. My NYC policy years before the ACA was $1200 a month. I was lucky enough to get COBRA at $550 a month while unemployed.
I think people are confusing their misguided anger over people getting free benefits with the erroneous belief that the poor are better off.
Math, are you clamoring to give up your current life for a one bedroom Section 8 apartment and $160 of food stamps? Is that better than your current life? We are assessing if the entire lifestyle of the poor is better than choosing how you live in retirement.
No, no, no. A person with $250k in assets is not eating food bank food. You seem to be fixated on healthcare. Free Medicaid isn't the same as having the freedom and options of private insurance. Private insurance was never cheap. My NYC policy years before the ACA was $1200 a month. I was lucky enough to get COBRA at $550 a month while unemployed.
I think people are confusing their misguided anger over people getting free benefits with the erroneous belief that the poor are better off.
Math, are you clamoring to give up your current life for a one bedroom Section 8 apartment and $160 of food stamps? Is that better than your current life? We are assessing if the entire lifestyle of the poor is better than choosing how you live in retirement.
No, no, no. A person with $250k in assets is not eating food bank food. You seem to be fixated on healthcare. Free Medicaid isn't the same as having the freedom and options of private insurance. Private insurance was never cheap. My NYC policy years before the ACA was $1200 a month. I was lucky enough to get COBRA at $550 a month while unemployed.
I think people are confusing their misguided anger over people getting free benefits with the erroneous belief that the poor are better off.
Math, are you clamoring to give up your current life for a one bedroom Section 8 apartment and $160 of food stamps? Is that better than your current life? We are assessing if the entire lifestyle of the poor is better than choosing how you live in retirement.
i never said they are better off poor , why do you keep repeating the same thing when i never said any such thing .
"every welfare perk has a value " that is the same as more income . period ! i never said it is better or worse . it is what it is , and it is the equivalent of more income , or having the assets to generate that income value -end of story
Kind of interesting how some people spend so much time being angry about other people. Makes you wonder if they have any room left in their lives to be content with their own circumstances.
i never said they are better off poor , why do you keep repeating the same thing when i never said any such thing .
"every welfare perk has a value " that is the same as more income . period ! i never said it is better or worse . it is what it is , and it is the equivalent of more income , or having the assets to generate that income value -end of story
The title and purpose of this thread is the assertion that the poor have it better than those that don't receive benefits. It's a simple analysis. Would you trade your life to live the "high life" of being poor in America.
As someone who was legitimately poor and worked my way out of it, my upcoming European vacation is so much better than grabbing canned goods from the food bank.
Oh yeah, the medical thing...look at the health statistics between the poor and the middle class. Lack of access to good quality food, safe outdoor spaces, etc have an adverse effect on health.
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