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[QUOTE=suzy_q2010;415 It is all about CHOICE. None of us are saying don't get whatever vaccinations you think is best for you. Do what is right for you. We only post on here to present a different view about what we ourselves are choosing that is right for US as Seniors. One size doesn't fit all, especially when it comes to freedom of medical choice for an individual. Some of us believe in the choice of an individual. To come on and say on a Retirement Forum that we are doing a disservice to the elderly, when ourselves ARE elderly, is absurd. That is your problem in thinking that the only people who refuse every single under the sun vaccinations are just parents of young children. Let this be a learning experience for YOU coming on a forum for Seniors pushing your same old tired BS.
We are all adults on here and deserve our rights to be treated as such.
It is all about CHOICE. None of us are saying don't get whatever vaccinations you think is best for you. Do what is right for you. We only post on here to present a different view about what we ourselves are choosing that is right for US as Seniors. One size doesn't fit all, especially when it comes to freedom of medical choice for an individual. Some of us believe in the choice of an individual. To come on and say on a Retirement Forum that we are doing a disservice to the elderly, when ourselves ARE elderly, is absurd. That is your problem in thinking that the only people who refuse every single under the sun vaccinations are just parents of young children. Let this be a learning experience for YOU coming on a forum for Seniors pushing your same old tired BS.
We are all adults on here and deserve our rights to be treated as such.
It's not just about choice. It's about what your choices do to others.
I am a senior. I am retired. This is a good place to get the message to seniors and retired people to get flu shots and the Tdap.
I will be very happy if no one reading this thread ever has a daughter or daughter in law recording a video for Sounds of Pertussis.
By the way, if you have no medical contraindications to taking any vaccine, by refusing it you are doing a disservice not just to the elderly, but to everyone.
People can get their own flu shots to protect themselves. Can't get the shot? You've never been on a plane and seen someone wearing a mask? They can do that if they are worried about catching a disease being around large crowds of strangers in public.
It's not just about choice. It's about what your choices do to others.
I am a senior. I am retired. This is a good place to get the message to seniors and retired people to get flu shots and the Tdap.
I will be very happy if no one reading this thread ever has a daughter or daughter in law recording a video for Sounds of Pertussis.
By the way, if you have no medical contraindications to taking any vaccine, by refusing it you are doing a disservice not just to the elderly, but to everyone.
Agreed. People who argue about "freedom of choice" ignore or don't know about the concept of community/herd immunity. Once fewer than X% of people are immunized - many people in the population become vulnerable to a disease. Including people who cannot tolerate vaccinations for various health reasons. Infants - pregnant women - immunocompromised people.
As for wearing a mask - having traveled to Japan and other places where it is considered polite to wear a mask when one has a cold or similar - I think it's a good idea. But it's not always practical. For example - when you have to talk (clearly).
BTW - I didn't know about the whooping cough thing until last year. I thought I was "good for life" because of childhood shots. Didn't realize that the vaccination immunity wears out when you get older.
Apart from the "civics" aspect of the thing - there are personal practical aspects. Who's going to take care of me/my husband if we get the flu? What would happen if we got whooping cough? I'm not a big fan of getting sick/going to hospitals. Who is?
And I will reiterate that - IMO - many people who diss vaccinations either don't know or don't remember the diseases they were designed to eradicate. That's why the Sounds of Pertussis is good. I often question whether people who diss the flu vaccine have actually ever had the flu (many people confuse bad colds with the flu - they're not the same thing at all). And - when it comes to pneumonia - remember what it used to be called? "The old man's friend". Because it killed old people pretty quickly - with little pain. Now some seniors who are already in pretty bad shape might welcome a visit from this "friend". But I doubt there are (m)any people here in that category.
Finally - people who diss vaccinations don't remember history. The leading cause of death in the US in 1900 was infectious diseases:
And life expectancy at birth was < 50 - in large part because of these infectious diseases. Does anyone really want to turn the clock back to 1900? Robyn
And I will reiterate that - IMO - many people who diss vaccinations either don't know or don't remember the diseases they were designed to eradicate. That's why the Sounds of Pertussis is good. I often question whether people who diss the flu vaccine have actually ever had the flu (many people confuse bad colds with the flu - they're not the same thing at all). And - when it comes to pneumonia - remember what it used to be called? "The old man's friend". Because it killed old people pretty quickly - with little pain. Now some seniors who are already in pretty bad shape might welcome a visit from this "friend". But I doubt there are (m)any people here in that category.
Finally - people who diss vaccinations don't remember history. The leading cause of death in the US in 1900 was infectious diseases:
And life expectancy at birth was < 50 - in large part because of these infectious diseases. Does anyone really want to turn the clock back to 1900? Robyn
I remember my grandfather telling me how bad the Spanish Flu outbreaks were in 1918 in most US cities. In some cities, ALL public gatherings were banned or discouraged for months. There were a couple of cities where they recruited members of the clergy to bury thousands of bodies because no one else would.
That is pathetic and many drug store employees were complaining about that last year. Not meeting their quotas. You go into a drug store to buy a bottle of shampoo. Why get harassed by the check out clerk pushing a flu shot on you to meet her quota when all you wanted want was a bottle of shampoo?
Get your shampoo somewhere else and avoid the hassle entirely.
No one at a pharmacy has ever said anything to me. There are signs all over the building--outside, inside, at the register--but not a peep from the employees.
No one at a pharmacy has ever said anything to me. There are signs all over the building--outside, inside, at the register--but not a peep from the employees.
Same here. I was just at the grocery store yesterday, and they made an announcement; that was it.
The folks at our pharmacy are always saying something. We are thankful and appreciative. Do any of you remind friends and family?
I sure do, risking getting my head bit off from my daughter! I finally said "don't wait *too* long".
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