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Old 07-18-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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It did and does somewhat today... but I suspect those male nurses are specialized and paid more based on what I've seen.


Male teachers in the upper grades were fairly common. But I had a fifth grade male teacher back in the 1950s who loved to have the little girls sit on his lap.[/quote]

Today that behavior would raise immediate reg flags and he would be told in no uncertain terms to cease and desist.
We had one when I first started teaching. He was the gym teacher for grades 1-3. Back then a lot of teachers got away with things but this guy did NOT!
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Old 07-18-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: SW US
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I was actually turned down on a job interview with the reason being that I was married. When I queried what being married had to do with it, he answered, "You will have kids and quit." I told him I didn't plan to have any kids. He didn't believe me and I didn't get the job.
This happened to me in 1983. I don't think that now they could legally tell you that, but back then they were very blunt about it.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:20 PM
 
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It did and does somewhat today... but I suspect those male nurses are specialized and paid more based on what I've seen.

First year male nurses are paid the same pay, despite often being required to do much more of patient lifting that the much smaller female nurses would not do. In one hospital where I worked, the male nurses got together and filed a complaint with the union and management to stop this practice.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:15 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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The late-Boomers escaped almost all of that. I entered the workforce in 1981. Title VII and the EEOC had been around for 15 years by then and corporate America was quite tuned into gender discrimination suits. There was not much "Mad Men" going on because that would result in a discrimination suit with a giant settlement. It doesn't mean that discrimination didn't happen. What it did do is open up career paths for women in an awful lot of high paying fields. I've always worked with lots of female engineers. Female physicians, dentists, and attorneys are pretty normal.

There is still a pretty major glass ceiling in corporate America. Executive row is still mostly male.
The EEOC is useless, I graduated in 1981 too. I would scrap the EEOC if I becomes a President.
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Old 07-19-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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My story exactly. If a young woman was in her twenties and not married when applying for a job she was often told she will get married soon and quit.
That happened to me. I was around 20 and single. I spent all day being interviewed by 3 different men and the last guy said that after they trained me I'd get married and quit. Also, at a different company, during the 2nd day interview they asked me what my boyfriend (!!) thought about my commuting to work into the city. I didn't get that job, either.
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Old 07-19-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast
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This was a very interesting read. I am a BB, born '49. When I entered the work force the big topic of conversation was should we cut our hair and should we wear our engagement rings? I had a boss once tell me I should stay home and have babies. All the girls in our office worked after they got married, but they did not work once they had their babies. That was when they all quit.

Everything is so different these days. These younger generations couldn't make it on what we made. Their lifestyle is so much different. They think the HGTV house is the norm, the latest electronics a necessity. We had black and white TV with 3 channels. 4 of us shared one tiny bathroom.

One thing I do remember quite vividly was the constant talk about population explosion and how bad it was. And now it's interesting how the talk is all about how there aren't enough children being born to fund ss...

I do think one's experience varies what part of the BB generation you were born into. My parents were older when they had me and were very much part of the war years and had very tough childhoods. I know that affected how I was raised.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Well, some of us prefer NOT to be blissfully short-sighted...the Baby Boomers have provided many lessons for the rest of us on what NOT to do...
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Well then, hopefully YOU will be the shining example of everything a stellar human being should be, and lead the way....

But those attributes, whatever else they might include, would start with the realization that stereotyping any group of people with identical attributes does not give an accurate picture of the unique aspects of individuals in that group, so in that aspect, I would say you've failed in your aspirations there.

But thanks for playing, anyway.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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Tell me again what we are being blamed for?
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:47 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Tell me again what we are being blamed for?
Clogging up promotions.
Stealing from our children because we expect to get Social Security.
Not retiring soon enough.
Not accepting a work ethic different than ours.
Bankrupting pension systems.
Enacting Medicare.
Not having enough kids.
Having too many kids.
Being sexist.
Being racist.
Expecting people to be on time.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Tell me again what we are being blamed for?
Everything under the sun. Everything which has gone wrong with this country (and I admit that's plenty). It is easier to demonize one group than to take into account the complex world conditions which would have led to many negative changes no matter what was done or by whom.

Life is frustrating and has many difficulties. Emotionally it's easier if there is a scapegoat - a person or group to blame. Although the example is over-used, Hitler told the German people that Jews were to blame for Germany's sufferings following World War I. That was patent nonsense, of course, but it is amazing how many people bought into the idea.

So imagine you're a Millennial and some Boomer is hanging in there at work at age 70. You wish the guy would leave in order to open up a slot for your possible promotion, so in your mind you hate all Boomers because they are greedy and standing in your way, ignorning the fact that there have always been people who retired early and others who hung in there beyond their time, just as there will be Millennials who retire early and other Millennials who hang in there beyond their time.
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