COLA Watch 2017 (out of control, grow up, raise, opinions)
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How is that something other than rent slavery and class warfare?
No such thing as rent slavery. No one is forcing you to live where you live. You can go live under a bridge or in a tent...lots of people do it. Thats your choice.
A very reasonable explaination of free market pricing. On the other hand when we talk about housing expecially for many seniors and other low income folks is that their housing needs are not in play fully with free market forces. They are often rent controlled and built or managed by the public sector. That in many ways can create varying perceptions of reality and what drives pricing. How much low and moderate income housing is bult new by the private sector?
In a free market, transactions are based on agreement between two parties. In this country that does not exist, because government imposes minimum standards. I cannot have the tiny, low-quality, cheap housing I want, because government declares it unhabitable.
No such thing as rent slavery. No one is forcing you to live where you live. You can go live under a bridge or in a tent...lots of people do it. Thats your choice.
??? ??? ??? ??? Where I live, government makes periodic 'sweeps' of areas where people TRY to live under bridges or in tents. Fences are being installed under bridges and overpasses to prevent people from living there. Government displaces these people and takes their tents. An estimated 500 people are currently in the process of being displaced.
In a free market, transactions are based on agreement between two parties. In this country that does not exist, because government imposes minimum standards. I cannot have the tiny, low-quality, cheap housing I want, because government declares it unhabitable.
Did you read all of what I wrote? I said some parts of the market are operating under free market principles and others are government controlled in price. Often the differences are a result of income with lower and moderate income housing more often coming under government control. Your financial situation places you more in the arena controlled by government. Also my comments were in the context of rental rates.
Hearing things like this makes me so mad! There should be an increase every damn year. Prices continue to go up and up, so should Social Security.
I agree! And those of us on low fixed incomes can support each other by sharing cost-cutting ideas; suggestions for locating affordable housing, etc.
We aren't struggling to get by because we think it's fun; feelings can be easily hurt by some in the opposite camp chiming in with a 'you got what you asked for' attitude, or 'well, we aren't having any problems paying our mortgage' - unnecessary and thoughtless comments I've seen numerous times on CD.
I'm happy for anyone who is doing well financially.
It is just helpful to be able to communicate with others who are in the same boat as I am and not be judged as a loser.
Did you read all of what I wrote? I said some parts of the market are operating under free market principles and others are government controlled in price. Often the differences are a result of income with lower and moderate income housing more often coming under government control. Your financial situation places you more in the arena controlled by government. Also my comments were in the context of rental rates.
You were talking about rent controlled and public sector built/managed housing, I'm talking about private sector housing made unaffordable by government mandates.
You were talking about rent controlled and public sector built/managed housing, I'm talking about private sector housing made unaffordable by government mandates.
So why did you write that in response to me if they weren't related?
No such thing as rent slavery. No one is forcing you to live where you live. You can go live under a bridge or in a tent...lots of people do it. Thats your choice.
Actually, in most of the united states it is illegal to live under a bridge or to to be able to put up a tent in a place that is not zoned for that [ and then of course, that will almost always cost money] if a person can not afford to rent anywhere, they might be homeless. In many cities, for all practical purposes, it is against the law to be homeless. For many Christians, their version of Jesus must be pleased as punch by the demonization of the poor.
Really?? Wow - I knew Obama was amazing - but that good??? Are you actually saying Obama, who was 14 years old in 1975, which is when SS first began using the CPI to determine the COLA, had his hand on the scale even then???
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Since 1975, Social Security's general benefit increases have been based on increases in the cost of living, as measured by the Consumer Price Index. We call such increases Cost-Of-Living Adjustments, or COLAs. Because there has been a decline in the Consumer Price Index, there will be no COLA payable in 2016.
I have to wonder if poster Chiluvr has read this entire thread, which contains numerous examples of prices which have not "continue[d] to go up and up".
In any case what struck me is the ironic nature of the exchange above, in which the second poster is supporting the first. Am I the only one to notice that the first poster is enjoying taxpayer subsidized rent, yet has the temerity to complain about her rent? Maybe I should complain too, as I am paying for my own housing without any subsidy and in addition I am paying for the housing (or a portion of it) of the first poster. And she didn't even bother to say thank you.
Perhaps this woman is disabled? Many seniors made the mistake of hoping to be able to live on their Social Security and now find themselves unable to pay for their day to day expenses. I have no qualms about subsidizing a senior who probably worked hard all their lives. Single mothers with multiple kids with multiple baby daddy's I do have a problem with.
As for not reading all the posts: I don't read an entire thread before posting; I doubt anybody does. You read something, you comment; I believe that's how it works.
As I said rents in my area have had the largest increases IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. It was on our local news many times in the last year. Manhattan rents going down 1% isn't going to suddenly made people rich. A person paying $1500 will now have a whole $15 extra a month. What will they do with that sudden windfall??
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